B12 Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 Serious question I have Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit on own OS SSD and now Windows 10 pro 64 bit on its own separate OS SSD too, DCS v2 beta is currently installed on its own SSD from Win7 and I was wondering if that could be shared on my Win10 boot up? or if not could I just install DCS V2 on Win10 too on a different partition considering its still the exact same machine? To me it should make no difference, exact same hardware and exact same machine and no other is going to use the one sim at any time but me, but it would be helpful in my choice of best OS to use and benchmarking but I'd just like to check in first. Thanks.
cichlidfan Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 Since it is a different/separate OS and registry, you will probably have to do a second install which will almost certainly require a new activation of any modules. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
B12 Posted March 4, 2016 Author Posted March 4, 2016 Since it is a different/separate OS and registry, you will probably have to do a second install which will almost certainly require a new activation of any modules. Assuming that's official? Thought that might be the case, not what I wanted to hear but thanks anyway. Another question though, on Windows 7 on same machine currently I have my DCS 2.0 Nevada beta and all my modules installed in it, what about installing DCS 1.5 on my Win10 partition install, would installing my same paid for modules work again without conflict? ... I did have DCS 1.5 alongside 2.0 on Win 7 for a while, un-installed DCS1.5 thinking on win 7 thinking DCS 2.0 gave me every theatre but it cant :( so now I need my DCS 1.5 back, if possible would like this on my Win 10 part as its the OS I'll likely end up using AS Win7 gets phased out. Thanks again.
cichlidfan Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 Nothing I say is official, just my opinion based on my knowledge of the sim. The same would apply to installing v1.5. An activation would be required, almost certainly. As far as the sim, and Starforce, is concerned, your two operating systems are completely different machines. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
B12 Posted March 4, 2016 Author Posted March 4, 2016 Nothing I say is official, just my opinion based on my knowledge of the sim. The same would apply to installing v1.5. An activation would be required, almost certainly. As far as the sim, and Starforce, is concerned, your two operating systems are completely different machines. Yikes! Time Starforce was dropped then? because Starforce is wrong, its most definitely the same machine just using a different OS to use the sim at any one time. Hate red tape, LOL
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted March 5, 2016 ED Team Posted March 5, 2016 You will find a guide to activations in your doc folder of your main install. DCS uses starforce and works on a points system, changing the OS will add points to your maximum 12 points and will use up an activation. Each license (disk) has initial 10 activations plus AAA technology (described below). If StarForce detects changes to your computer hardware/software as described below, an activation will be required. An activation will be required if the hardware/software changes exceed 12 points as rated below: CPU ID: 13 Windows PID: 3 Computer Name: 3 Hard drive volume serial number: 3 MAC address: 6 RAM amount: 6 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
B12 Posted March 7, 2016 Author Posted March 7, 2016 Hi Big Newy, but quite honestly I think DCS had trampled piracy underground for this sim and rightly so! I know some pikey mates who like flight some sims but they do not do DCS. I do think this current system is over harsh on genuine users and one or two modules I've seen some of my activations dissapear into the ether, Mig 21 I'm talking about especially as I did legitimate core game engine upgrades as was required. I've heard activations auto renew but I'm not seeing that and one day I fear through no fault of my own I'll lose my genuine purchases and ability to fly them should I have a PC crash, hardware change (nobody's going to keep track of those rules mate) or multitudes of reasons with my dual boot example being just one. Why all that complicated draconian fancy activation stuff if you have a secure and solid system? Honest question mate. Rise of Flight and the newer BOS/BOM sims seem to have no problem with piracy the developers boast, this whole activation de-activate, especially as the de-activate is hidden deep in the games folder is most off putting and its hardly user friendly or transparent. I can install ROF and BOS/BOM on same machine in dual boot twice and even my other PC and this goes for other games too, all Steam games actually. One of my long term DCS friends whom I ran this by for proof reading said they will ban you forever if I post this, hope that's not true? why would they do that? Its constructive criticism and I do love DCS after buying all but two aircraft modules now. Thanks.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted March 7, 2016 ED Team Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) This game allows Activations Automatically (“AAA”) technology that enables you to create a new activation once every 31 days. This ensures that you can still play the game, even if Eagle Dynamics no longer exists someday. This function is enabled after all default activations have been used so you will never run out of activations even if you are really careless with them, if you do have a problem with activations you can contact ED and they will assist you. It is very easy to activate and deactivate modules and all the years I have been doing this it has never been a problem for me. The DRM issue has been discussed many many times here, it is what ED have chosen to use and nothing I can see will change that, a guide to activations can be found in your docs folder in the games main install location. hope that helps Edited March 7, 2016 by BIGNEWY Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
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