Google cardboard with DCS world

[sniperwolfpk5]

I tried google VR with DCS world. I would like people to try it as well. You will see a glimpse of VR with google cardboard. The experience is very nice if you are trying for the first time. The things are more real. You will feel the heights, the depth of world. Flying in a huey and going down from high altitude you will feel it that I am going down. I can imagine what would be the experience in Oculus and Vive. It would be mind blowing experience. That was my experience.

 

OK what you need to use Google VR with DCS.

 

• Buy a cheap google cardboard. There are tons of on ebay, Aliexpress and other sites.
  
• Head tracking is very very important. If you don't have TrackIR then try opentrack or FreeTrackNoIR. Without head tracking VR is useless.
  
• A smart phone. I have android based smartphone with 1440p screen resolutions.
  
• You need Splashtop wired xDisplay agent that will run on your PC. Get it from here. You need wired version not wifi one which is very slow frame rates.
  
• You also need android app. Get it from here
  

 

Setting up all the mess

• Install wired xdisplay agent on your PC
  
• Install xdiplay client on your andriod phone
  
• Now run DCS world. Go to options and select stereo from monitor dropdown. Apply settings
  

 

That's it

I thank you SkateZilla for directing me for the stereo option in DCS World.

 

Limitations

xDisplay support limited resolutions. So the resolution are not good. xDisplay has better frame rates compared to others. You can set High frame rate in xDisplay agent but it is not the best but better than others.

 

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My Up to date and Recommended Software and Setup

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• Use Trinus VR. This is the best software. It works good with AMD and even Nvidia cards. It allows to setup IPDs, Image quality, Resolution, Phone size and Head tracking etc
  
• For head set I would recommend a cheap chines head set which allows you to set IPDs and focus setting
  
• I am using Boob VR z4. It has 110 degree of FOV
  

 

My final thoughts

 

I wish I have the money to buy a powerful PC and one of the VR set. Anyhow the experience was awesome. I would encourage people to try it. You can check my sig for hardware and other stuff I used.

 

Thank you

 

Excuse my English skill

 

Edited December 6, 2016 by sniperwolfpk5

[Farlander]

Nice, might have to try it. do you think it will it work on a sony xperia z2?

[sniperwolfpk5]

Nice, might have to try it. do you think it will it work on a sony xperia z2?

 

Yes it will work perfectly

[Lensman]

Thanks for the heads up. Just gave it a quick try with cardboard and an iPhone 5..looks promising. I'll try later in my pit with Track IR booted up.

Cheers again :)

[Farlander]

tell us how it is :)

[flying rabbit]

Did you use the built in oculus mode in dcs or how did you get a 3D view out of it? I did use moonlight with nvidias shield streaming and tridef for 3D view. Moonlight is even free for nvidia users.

[sniperwolfpk5]

tell us how it is :)

 

As I said VR is a new world. Once you dive in there is no go back. Seriously It is something new. Every thing look so real. You will feel the world scale. The co-pilot beside you look like he is real and sitting next to you. The cockpit is damn big.

 

There are things which you are not good and you should be prepare for.

• Very low resolutions. This is the limitation of the app.
  
• Poor frame rates on phone. There is not a decent app for android that have better refresh rates.
  
• You can't use it permanently due to above issues. I tried just for the experience. So don't expect too much
  

 

I tried splashtop. There is another app iDisplay which is not working with me

But with all cons. We are here to taste the VR and I can't imagine how good it would be on Oculus and Vive which are true VR.

 

One advise if you are using different display app then it should have the USB options, as on wifi the refresh rate is very slow.

 

I am looking forward to your experience.

 

Did you use the built in oculus mode in dcs or how did you get a 3D view out of it? I did use moonlight with nvidias shield streaming and tridef for 3D view. Moonlight is even free for nvidia users.

 

Yes you have to select stereo option

[flying rabbit]

With moonlight you can do fullhd with 60fps without compression artifacts. And its free. You just need a nvidia graphicscard. http://moonlight-stream.com/

[sniperwolfpk5]

Will it stream to android phone? If it works then I will try it

[Farlander]

it will stream to android

[sniperwolfpk5]

Well sad thing is that I don't have nvidia GPU :(

Edited April 12, 2016 by sniperwolfpk5

[sniperwolfpk5]

Another top notch app Trinus. Download server and Trinus Client for andriod.

 

Install server on PC and android app on your phone. That's it. You can play any PC game on your VR. It is the fastest and build only for VR purpose. It has tons of options. You can define your view by modifying lense settings. Create profiles for different games. This app is the future for google cardboard and the most cheap package

[sniperwolfpk5]

Trinus team is also developing app for iPhone

[funkyfranky]

Did you get trackIR working together with Trinus?

[sniperwolfpk5]

Yes just select no sensor in Trinus server and use TrackIR as normal you use with games.

[SkateZilla]

You'd be better off buying a 5.5/6.0 inch 1080p/1440p screen and hooking it directly to your PC using HDMI (Usually you have to buy the screen + mipi/HDMI board).

(* DK2 uses a 1080P screen and it's not enough for clear text, so, 1440p+ is the way to go, which is about $245+ for Screen+HDMI Board)

 

Streaming from PC to phone will not give you the resolution or refresh rate, let alone image clarity you need for DCS.

 

I know a few people w/ phones that support being used as USB Screens, but those phones are not publicly available.

[flying rabbit]

Streaming from PC to phone will not give you the resolution or refresh rate, let alone image clarity you need for DCS.

You should try moonlight via usb. FullHD at 60fps is not a problem.

[funkyfranky]

Yes just select no sensor in Trinus server and use TrackIR as normal you use with games.

Thanks! That did the trick.

[funkyfranky]

You should try moonlight via usb. FullHD at 60fps is not a problem.

 

I am still waiting for my headset so I tried moonlight yesterday with just my plain phone. It looks very promising!

However, in the stereo mode you get two square images. Don't you need some lense correction as you get it from Trinus?

[sniperwolfpk5]

Trinus has option if a game support stereo mode then it don't split screen and there is option in Trinus to disable splitting screens in video tab (Fake3d). Trinus has also the option to use moonlight if you have nvidia card. The main purpose of Trinus is to play any game that don't support stereo. One of the powerful feature of Trinus is to adjust your screens as you like. The screens can be resized, re-positioned and many more options

[sniperwolfpk5]

Don't you need some lense correction as you get it from Trinus?

 

In video tab there is lense option. As in above post I told you that you can resize, reposition, scale x, y and many other options.

[funkyfranky]

In video tab there is lense option. As in above post I told you that you can resize, reposition, scale x, y and many other options.

 

Yes, I know that Trinus has this option. My question was referring to moonlight itself, which afaik does not have this feature.

However, good point that Trinus also has an option to use moonlight. I'll try to figure out how that works.

[sniperwolfpk5]

Select moonlight in Trinus and resize, position your screen to your desire comfort. Keep in mind when you change something you have to select another window other than Trinus to see the actual changes

[funkyfranky]

Yes, moonlight was working pretty much out-of-the-box.

 

I only had little time to test it with DCS but from my first impressions I can only say WOW! This one extra dimension adds so much that's phenomenal. Looking around in the cockpit is just stunning. I was really surprised how the cockpits look like. In 2D that does not really come across.

 

Thanks for sharing the idea sniperwolfpk5 :thumbup:

 

However, I think the resolution etc. is not quite good enough to play for more than 20-30 minutes. Also I guess "serious" missions might be a little difficult in terms of spotting enemies in the distance and so on.

So a big "warning" to those who try this. Once you do, there is no way back and eventually you will go for a Vive/Rift. I sure as hell will :music_whistling:

 

One more question: During my first tests, I had the problem that the buttons and switches in the cockpit were difficult to click with the mouse. I always had to move the pointer quite a bit to the left of the actual position of the button if I could find right position at all. Is that a known problem or am I missing anything?

EDIT: Could it be that one has to use the right (not left) screen? Found something like that in the Rift thread. I'll try when I get home.

Edited April 14, 2016 by funkyfranky

[sniperwolfpk5]

Yes the impression is always wow. The resolution is not good and that's you can't play for more than 10 to 15 minutes and you can't use it for mission. Mouse use is very difficult that is known issue. ED is working hard on it and they mention good mouse support for Oculus. As before I was skipping Oculus and Vive threads. After trying VR 2D screen is a joke. Everything in cockpit standout you can feel like they are real.

 

I will suggest to everyone just try it