JTAC not showing on radio menu

[euthyphro]

For those of you who thought I was crazy in my last thread. Here is a video of JTAC not working in mission editor. Notice the various methods I used in trying to setup JTAC...

 

Any advice?

 

Edited June 2, 2016 by euthyphro

[Grimes]

Mission files are always more helpful than videos for diagnosing issues like this, though Pink Floyd is always appreciated. You are assigning those tasks on the "Triggered Actions" tab. This means those tasks must be activated as part of a trigger. If you go to the route tab and choose advanced waypoint actions, you can setup the tasks and they will be executed when the unit reaches that waypoint. For stuff on the first waypoint they are just activated immediately.

 

I attached a mission file showing a few examples of it working. A thing to keep in mind is for the "enroute" tasks the AI must detect the targets in order to give tasking to attack them, while the "Perform task" "Fac Assign Group" forces the AI to know and give a FAC task. Generally speaking aircraft are better with the enroute FAC task since they have more sensors that can see further away to detect targets.

jtac_on_list.miz

[BIGNEWY]

Pink Floyd is always appreciated, but off topic. Deleted

[euthyphro]

Mission files are always more helpful than videos for diagnosing issues like this, though Pink Floyd is always appreciated. You are assigning those tasks on the "Triggered Actions" tab. This means those tasks must be activated as part of a trigger. If you go to the route tab and choose advanced waypoint actions, you can setup the tasks and they will be executed when the unit reaches that waypoint. For stuff on the first waypoint they are just activated immediately.

 

I attached a mission file showing a few examples of it working. A thing to keep in mind is for the "enroute" tasks the AI must detect the targets in order to give tasking to attack them, while the "Perform task" "Fac Assign Group" forces the AI to know and give a FAC task. Generally speaking aircraft are better with the enroute FAC task since they have more sensors that can see further away to detect targets.

 

I opened the .miz file in the mission editor but I did not notice any assigned JTAC units.

[euthyphro]

Here are my .miz files

 

My created JTAC unit is the only ally in the middle of the enemy forces.

 

Axeman @ 31FM

 

 

Please take a look at how they are setup, keep in mind that non of them even show in my radio menu.

Jtac 1.miz

Jtac2.miz

Jtac3.miz

[Grimes]

I opened the .miz file in the mission editor but I did not notice any assigned JTAC units.

 

Trust me they are there, did you play the mission to confirm?

 

As I stated in my first reply its an issue of triggered tasks not getting activated. I've attached an image that should hopefully explain things a little better. In my sample mission I used waypoint actions because it takes less work to setup and is probably more in line with what you want.

[euthyphro]

I have used triggers before in mission editor. I have got JTAC to work using the methods I have in my .Miz files. I never had to use triggers in mission editors to get JTAC to work NECESSARILY.

 

As you can see in my video, I played the game... Nothing shows on my radio menu.

 

Were you able to get JTAC on your radio menu using any of those .Miz files without using triggers?

Edited June 3, 2016 by euthyphro

[euthyphro]

Would you like me to record and open ALL those .Miz files showing that that NONE of them show up on my radio menu?

[Flagrum]

Would you like me to record and open ALL those .Miz files showing that that NONE of them show up on my radio menu?

No, not necessary.

 

I have used triggers before in mission editor. I have got JTAC to work using the methods I have in my .Miz files. I never had to use triggers in mission editors to get JTAC to work NECESSARILY.

 

As you can see in my video, I played the game... Nothing shows on my radio menu.

 

Were you able to get JTAC on your radio menu using any of those .Miz files without using triggers?

 

What you did was setting up Actions in the "Triggered Actions"-tab. To get DCS to actually execute them, you need a Trigger in the mission that performs an "AI TASK PUSH" command. An example is shown on Grimes' picture on the right hand side.

 

But that is probably not what you intended. You probably just want a JTAC that is active right away at mission start. For that, you need to assign the FAC task as a Waypoint Action. Compare the left hand side of Grimes' picture.

 

You probably simply confused the two tabs ...

[euthyphro]

One of those .Miz files follows these instructions.

http://en.wiki.eagle.ru/wiki/Mission_Editor:_JTAC_%28Joint_Terminal_Attack_Controller%29

 

I also remember being able to setup JTAC without using "engage group"... The method for this is also in my attached .Miz file.

[Flagrum]

The important part from that wiki page is ... what I have circled in red in the attached picture.

[euthyphro]

Sorry, I see what is going on now... my bad. Strange how I have done this a hundred times and now I get tripped up after taking a break for a while...

 

Thanks for your help

 

"Advanced Waypoint" is what I need

[Grimes]

Also that wiki is way out of date. Aside for it using the old GUI style, you should notice that now the FAC tasks have entries for setting the callsign and radio frequency. You don't need to use other tasks to set those values.