Q: buttons at the cyclic

[Flagrum]

In an other thread I once asked if there is any sort of indication (lamp, whatever) that the pilot has enabled the auto-hover mode - but apparently there is none.

 

Now I believe, I know the reason for that ... or perhaps better phrased as a question: does the auto-hover button at the cyclic is really a toggle button (current DCS implementation) in the real helo? Or isn't it rather working like, i.e. the mag. brake button, which you hold depressed as long as you want the function to be active?

 

That way it would be more than clear to the pilot if he is in auto-hover or not - if he has the button depressed, he is (if within the parameters), but if he does not, he is definately not.

 

And second question about the buttons: where on the stick is the "slave to viviane" button at the cyclic? The DCS manual does not show anything in this regard ...?

[MAD-MM]

Flagrum in realty in believe Pilot notice the auto hover is engaged by response of the flight controls, but hard notice any change of the lack of FFB but this only speculation.

And slave button actual showed in the Manual, it's laying on the Pilot cyclic stick in the left upper corner Manual page 43.

[NeilWillis]

I usually see a deflection of the torque needle when auto hover is engaged.

 

It's a pretty useful indicator for confirming you were sufficiently stable when you engage it.

[Flagrum]

Yes, it is possible to interprete some readouts ... but I would have expected something more, even glaring obvious - like a bright indicator light or something similar. Well, but only if it isn't otherwise already obvious - like the necessitiy of holding a button depressed for example.

[MAD-MM]

Don't know about realty there is toggle button possible, but for DCS sounds for me awfull because you have to manage all weapons viviane sight buttons and monitoring the display and hold a trigger down for auto hover allways personal reference.

[Fri13]

Don't know about realty there is toggle button possible, but for DCS sounds for me awfull because you have to manage all weapons viviane sight buttons and monitoring the display and hold a trigger down for auto hover allways personal reference.

 

That can be reason why it is a toggle button instead hold button.

 

And it actually makes sense if the pilot needs to hold the button, as there is after all a pilot flying and the commander launching missiles.

 

And then Gazelle doesn't have anything on the right side, requiring right hand to operate anything there, unlike at the KA-50 and Mi-8MTv2 where the trimming and autopilot channels allows pilot to move hand away from cyclic for moments.

 

If the cyclic has hold button for hovering, then it would be sensible that the cyclic will move automatically all the time to the positions where autopilot is required to keep helo in hover. And when the pilot release the button for hovering, it is already automatically in the optimal position and pilot has easy task to change attitude if wanted.

 

So now in DCS, you need to get to hover yourself, enable the auto-hover, and then before releasing the hover match the input with the input box, or otherwise you will send wrong input to helo and it is flipped over in a second.

 

Now think about if we would have a AH-64 and all the dozens of buttons just for gunner and pilot in their HOTAS. You would not be able to fly that thing at all by alone.

 

But now need to wait that FF is implemented for Gazelle, so we can get to feel the system working.

[unknown]

Sorry to hijack this thread but i don't want to open a new one for this question and it is related to the topic. ;)

 

Does somebody know what in the RL Gazelle the following marked buttons and hat switch(1-3) functions are? The picture is from the manual and doesn't explain it.