Bearfoot Posted July 14, 2016 Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) As per discussion here, thanks to my natural foot stance being not suitable, I am selling my brand new VKB Version IV T-Rudder Pedals. I have listed them for sale on the famous auction site, but am not sure what the forum rules are regarding posting links to the sales page. As such, until I learn more, for now I will simply reproduce the information from the auction site here: VKB T-Rudder Pedals Mk. IV (Like-New/Mint Condition) Asking: USD 200 + shipping (continental US only) TL;DR Like-new MINT set of super high-precision rudder pedals for sale at pretty hefty discounted cost due to (a) me buying them on pre-order; (b) me not being happy with feet position given my current home flying setup; and © the merchant Stratojet not allowing returns. About These Pedals The precision, build, fit and finish of these rudder pedals are amazing. These are the fourth-generation of the famous VKB rudder pedals. If you fly flight simulators of any kind, the precision and responsivity of these will transform your game. If you fly helos, then be prepared to find that you can suddenly hold a hover like you were born to it. If you fly WW2 warbirds, then be prepared to find that you can suddenly line up those bandits and take them out like you are using a laser-precision engraving tool ("etching them out") rather than mushy toothbrush. If you fly general aviation, then be prepared to find you are able to bring your bird in to land under full control in the most tricky of crosswinds. Why Am You Selling Them Less Than a Week After Purchase? I pre-ordered these on the day they become available. I got them and instantly loved the increased precision and how they changed my flying .... BUT I just could not find to keep my legs in a to-me-natural position using them! While they are almost exactly the same width as the standard full-size Saitek Pro's, I found that I had to have my legs too close together for my comfort, and could not keep them as widely splayed apart (with the knees of at an angle) as I am used to. I recognize that this is a really odd idiosyncratic quirk on my part! The overwhelming majority of people are thrilled with these pedals seem to use them, both using gaming chairs as well as desktop setups like mine. Many manipulate the bars with just part of their feet, while others have a different seating position or different natural stance. I have been told that my stance is not realistic or that it is quick and easy to get used to the stance and/or feet position with these pedals and that it is worth it for their increased precision. Maybe. But I figure if I am not 100% happy with it I should not hold on to it, and better to sell them now while they are in their mint condition rather than later when I have been using them for a while. What Will I Be Getting? EVERYTHING! As it went right back into the box less than a week after I got it, this is almost like it came right off the shelf: the pedals, the cables, the adjustment tools, the various little bits and pieces including all the original packaging, etc. etc. And yes, that includes the nifty keychain! Other Things to Note "Hard" vs "Soft" Center Detents By default, these pedals come with a "hard" center detent. That is, as you move from left displacement to right displacement there is firm click and stop in the center position, and you have to use a little bit more force to get the displacement to cross the center to get to the other side. You can also configure the pedals to have a "soft" center detent. With this, while there is still a little bit of a bump as you cross the center when going from left to right or right to left, it is very minor, and you do not need any extra force to push through the center. This is not only more realistic, but also allows for much more precise control in those critical moments. The down side is that some people find that they need to add a litte dead zone in the software so that you do not inadvertently feed in left or right pedal when you feet are just resting on the pedals (that is, the center is a little "loose"); I personally did not find this necessary. Either way, switching between soft and hard detents can be done by the user, and is explained here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2832845&postcount=11 NOTE: In these pedals that you are getting, I have gone ahead and flipped the cam around to provide the more releastic and finer control offered by the "soft" center detent option. If you prefer the "hard" detent, you will have to switch it back following the video instructions. Swivel vs. Pressing Style These pedals are up/down press-style pedals (like that of your car) rather than swivel-style pedals. They are an authentic representation of most heli pedals, and while most fixed-wing a/c have swivel style pedals, this style of pedal is much more functional for a desktop home flying setup where you need less clearance under the desk to move your legs and because the pressing down motion fixes the pedals in place (with the old Saitek's, I had the problem of the set sliding forward whenever I aggressively applied force). Wheel Brakes These pedals do not offer hardware wheel brakes. You will need to use software to emulate them, as described here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2739581&postcount=92 Specifications Non-contact MaRS sensor with resolution of 0.01 degrees 12 Ball Bearings Reversable Cam Steel Construction Aluminium Heel Pads 32 bit ARM Controller USB 2.0 Upgradeable Firmware via USB Adjustable for different shoe size and height Size when assembled 15.7 x 9.5 x 3.9 in. (40 х 24 х 10 cm) Net Weight 5.9 lbs (2.7 kg) Edited July 29, 2016 by Bearfoot
rrohde Posted July 14, 2016 Posted July 14, 2016 Wheel Brakes These pedals do not offer hardware wheel brakes. You will need to use software to emulate them, as described here: http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19016 Just FYI - VKB have a software solution developed for that called T-Link; no need to tinker with an overly complex piece of software. See my write-up here http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2739581&postcount=92 . Works surprisingly well! Maybe that info is useful for the new owner of these fine pedals. :) PC: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | MSI Suprim GeForce 3090 TI | ASUS Prime X570-P | 128GB DDR4 3600 RAM | 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD | Win10 Pro 64bit Gear: HP Reverb G2 | JetPad FSE | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk.III w/ MCG Ultimate VKBcontrollers.com
Bearfoot Posted July 15, 2016 Author Posted July 15, 2016 Just FYI - VKB have a software solution developed for that called T-Link; no need to tinker with an overly complex piece of software. See my write-up here http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2739581&postcount=92 . Works surprisingly well! Maybe that info is useful for the new owner of these fine pedals. :) Thanks @rrohde! I've updated the post plus the ebay listing. Tried to +1 thank you for this, but looks like I need to "spread some reputation around" before I can do that!
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