Gun arm switch placement

[Flagrum]

Not meant to be disrespectful, but is the placement (or even existence) of the gun arm switch really correct? The placement next to the landing gear handle and all the switches dealing with the FBW system ... seems a bit odd to me. But yeah, this is just a hunch, I found nothing conclusive that that switch would not belong there ...

 

Why is there a separate gun arm switch anyways, what is the reasoning behind that?

[Knock-Knock]

Check his google photo link. Lots of Mirage 2000 (B in this case) cockpit photos/videos.

And yea, the gunarm is there.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=167586

[Flagrum]

Check his google photo link. Lots of Mirage 2000 (B in this case) cockpit photos/videos.

And yea, the gunarm is there.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=167586

Actually ... no. Those M-2000B videos show an empty space where we have the gun arm switch:

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMF5YHk6JeYTo7tC6pF2GzsdjWKi7FVRapcoElfm4jIbK1iihsu5wkQPtYdbeLvcA/photo/AF1QipNrUoSZsnwCnB_9JK71MIM4jYSAJMoMcUWI8XRa?key=SHZ3czJNYVNaRnRZOHBYcWFwN0NEZUFWQm40eVl3

[Knock-Knock]

Ah it does indeed. Sry.

B being trainer, maybe they removed the gun?

 

But just went sniffing on the net. Now I dont understand french, so had to use google translate.

 

But here is a 2000C manual.

http://www.avialogs.com/en/aircraft/france/dassault/mirage2000/manuel-pilote-mirage-2000-c.html#download

Just browse the manual in that window there. Page 99 covers Air/Air.

Thrown into google translate it says:

 

'Il faut egalement lever la securite arme'

'We must also raise the gun safety'

[Flagrum]

Hrm ... still not convinced. :o)

 

I am not sure that the google translation of "securite arme" as "gun safety" is correct (in this context). Sounds more like "armament safety" - i.e. "master arm" ...?

[Knock-Knock]

Hehe, not trying to convince you, cause I have no idea. You just ignited some curiosity in me :)

And yea, Google translate has some weird translations.

[jojo]

The gun safety switch exist, it's placed here, and it's specific to M-2000C RDI.

 

I don't know why there is this switch on top of Master Arm.

It's placed in an odd place because it's a late addition, it wasn't in the original design.

[Fri13]

Very interesting thing!

 

Years back I already gave up to understand the western aircraft designers ideas to design the cockpits, like you have some functions at one panel and then same functions are put on two other panels, so you have same functions scattered all over the cockpit.

This is like the simple thing for starting aircraft, where you really need to go and flip things around and check things, wait things and then continue flipping things all over again.

(That can be very logical actually as the systems just are so).

 

But then when it comes to some other designs like "Hey, lets put a FBW switch and gun armament switch next to each other!" it just comes serious question like, why? Both are so sensitive switches that you shouldn't mix to each other by accident in any situation, and yet they are there side by side, even when not doing anything to each other!

[OldE24]

i thought it was said the gun arm switch was placed there because the RED nob on the stick was it but is not possible because of location to put a CLICKABLE switch so it was moved to the console.

[jojo]

It's not a "click" problem.

The switch exists in the real plane.