sunski34 Posted August 29, 2016 Posted August 29, 2016 Hi, in that thread, http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=168803&page=4 I understood that we have to create (or modify) a WP on the coordinates given by JTAC to work (I don't test). But, when you have only one vehicule on the enemy group, it's the same as directly select the unit with CCRP cross !!!!!! If the enemy group have more than one unit, JTAC give barycentre of the enemy group !! So what is the rule ? Normaly I think (not sure) that your course has to be 90° of the JTAC to target lazing direction ! Is that a bug or a problem of using this fonctionality in M2000C ? And in that last case, how to use it correctly?
sunski34 Posted August 29, 2016 Author Posted August 29, 2016 Some people can do that with CCRP designation ! perhaps a problem of methodology .... or a bug in 2.0 ! I will try on 1.5 release version.
Frederf Posted August 29, 2016 Posted August 29, 2016 JP 3-09 suggests that the acceptable laser-target-weapon geometry is: 1. Weapon within +-60 (better +-45) degrees of the LTL 2. Weapon outside a safety cone of +-10 degrees of the LTL As long as the group is reasonably together just give the release a lot of energy in a slight dive to get seeker on target early. The basket is quite large delivered properly. I just can't get the ED JTAC to actually lase in the first place.
Ciribob Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 Try the JTAC Auto laze that's part of CTLD. Have a look at the example mission and video. It's very handy for practising as the JTAC will auto lase and switch automatically when destroyed :) https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2884155&postcount=73 Scripts: Complete Transport And Logistics Deployment - CTLD / CTLD Examples - Lots of example of how to use CTLD CSAR Script - Downed Pilot Rescue / Dedicated Server Script - Automatically launch DCS Multiplayer server at startup Range Scoring Script - Get scores and counts hits on targets for gunnery or bombs / SimpleSlotBlock - Multiplayer dynamic Slot Blocking Script Projects: DCS-SimpleRadio Standalone - DCS Radio Integration for All Aircraft - NO TeamSpeak Required! :) DCS-SimpleRadio Troubleshooting Post / DCS-SimpleRadio Free Support Channel on Discord
Frederf Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 No, I'm going to use the ED JTAC and it's going to work like it's supposed to.
Ciribob Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 Ok no worries, just trying to help :) Scripts: Complete Transport And Logistics Deployment - CTLD / CTLD Examples - Lots of example of how to use CTLD CSAR Script - Downed Pilot Rescue / Dedicated Server Script - Automatically launch DCS Multiplayer server at startup Range Scoring Script - Get scores and counts hits on targets for gunnery or bombs / SimpleSlotBlock - Multiplayer dynamic Slot Blocking Script Projects: DCS-SimpleRadio Standalone - DCS Radio Integration for All Aircraft - NO TeamSpeak Required! :) DCS-SimpleRadio Troubleshooting Post / DCS-SimpleRadio Free Support Channel on Discord
Shadow_1stVFW Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 JP 3-09 suggests that the acceptable laser-target-weapon geometry is: 1. Weapon within +-60 (better +-45) degrees of the LTL 2. Weapon outside a safety cone of +-10 degrees of the LTL As long as the group is reasonably together just give the release a lot of energy in a slight dive to get seeker on target early. The basket is quite large delivered properly. I just can't get the ED JTAC to actually lase in the first place. Have you checked out chucks M-2000 guide? He's got a step by step procedure to place a JTAC in the mission editor. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Aurora R7 || i7K 8700K || 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s || 2TB M.2 PCIe x4 SSD || GTX 1080 Ti with 11GB GDDR5X || Windows 10 Pro || 32GB Dual Channel DDR4 at 2667MHz || Virpil Warbird Base || Virpil T-50 Stick || Virpil MT-50 Throttle || Thrustmaster TPR Pedals || Oculus Rift
Frederf Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 Apparently M1025 and M1043 HMMWV have no capability to make WP or laser mark but M1045 does... wtf. Also JTAC doesn't match your laser code. It does 1688 regardless if the bomb is something else. And it holds up on "spot the laser target on your TGP step" which obviously the Mirage can't do. I guess I just lie and say I detect it. It doesn't make a while lot of sense that TEN SECONDS / LASER ON must occur before you can declare IN. And where does this TERMINATE brevity come from? This "marked by laser" doesn't make any sense for the Mirage. Laser is just weapon designation and serves no purpose for marking. There should be a separate process for laser as mark and laser as designator. JTAC should be clued in to realize which aircraft require offboard lasing and which don't. Since lasing could always come from a 3rd party and laser-capable platforms may desire offboard lasing in all cases it should be a requestable item for JTAC to lase or not. Yes, provided you can get JTAC to lase it will seek normally. I wasn't expecting this much nonsense preventing JTAC from packing a laser. I guess the US Army forbids the designator unless your truck has a missile on it too. And the bomb doesn't respond to non-fusing. Even with neither fuse pulled it still both seeks and explodes. I don't know what arming wire goes to what solenoid in reality but hot and guided with no fuse selected is surely not correct.
Robin_Hood Posted December 17, 2016 Posted December 17, 2016 Not sure what you mean by "shaky hands simulated", I have a perfectly stable view with the binoculars. Only problem is the mouse sensivity making it hard sometime to pinpoint targets that are quite far. If the target is moving, then it can become pretty problematic of course. The big problem of the binoculars, apart from that, is the limited zoom capability, which limits their effective range to maybe 2 000 m or something. Even though it is possible to extend the zoom a bit further using the zoom keys. 2nd French Fighter Squadron
sunski34 Posted December 20, 2016 Author Posted December 20, 2016 Now JTAC works for me. But I have to have a good approach (JTAC toward ennemies heading) to have a good kill. If not (for example perpendicalar approach of the axis JTAC/ennemies), the GBU-12"sees" the laser but don't hit the unit.... Try several times on the last version 1.5.5, same result.... Why?
sunski34 Posted December 21, 2016 Author Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) Strange I retried today, and that was ok... Lasing was good... here's an image with jtac and target and line blue, mirage fly plan.... So wait and see perhaps a problem from myself... Edited December 21, 2016 by sunski34
sunski34 Posted December 21, 2016 Author Posted December 21, 2016 yesterday in such a situation, lasing was ok, GBU12 took the laser change its direction but fell between JTAC and targets !
sunski34 Posted December 21, 2016 Author Posted December 21, 2016 Perhaps that was a problem of JTAC skill average.... Now skill is excellent
sunski34 Posted December 24, 2016 Author Posted December 24, 2016 In 1.5.5 update 4, JTAC give the azimuth min/max to enter Attack zone.... if you're not in the correct axis... Perfect...
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