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Hello pilots,

I was training a bit with a friend in an online mission:

2x Mirage 2000C Enfield 1-1,1-2

1x Ai JTAC (HMMW TOW) Whiplash 1-1 (140.00MHz)

And enemy BTR-80.

Now I will explain what happens, only the wingleader (Enfield 1-1) can communicate successfully with the JTAC, the other doesn't have any answer by him.

We checked the radio frequency, if the radio was in Manual mode and so on. Everything was ok.

Then we changed role (I was 1-1). Same as before, only the leader can communicate with JTAC.

My answer is: this is normal? This is related to the datalink switch in the JTAC's Enroute task? This is a bug?

Thanks for any help provided!

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Datalink is for the A-10C datalink. Not relevant to other aircraft.

 

Were your two clients in the same group, or in separate groups? Just thinking that the ability to have multiple players in the same group is fairly recent and maybe the JTAC script might not work properly with it.

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Were your two clients in the same group, or in separate groups? Just thinking that the ability to have multiple players in the same group is fairly recent and maybe the JTAC script might not work properly with it.

 

I believe this is the issue, I had the same problem in a previous patch as I remember making a statement along the lines of, "What happens if the lead runs out of bombs? The JTAC will only ask for guns." We were also in M2Ks.

 

It would be nice to see the code total the ordnance for the flight and allow anyone in the flight the ability to make calls.

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Were your two clients in the same group, or in separate groups? Just thinking that the ability to have multiple players in the same group is fairly recent and maybe the JTAC script might not work properly with it.

 

That was my first thought as well. If that's true then the A-10Cs should have the same problem. It should still be possible to drop LGBs for the wingman, if flight lead takes care of the radio.

 

Anyone know if wingmen talk to JTACs in RL or is this only been done by the flight lead?

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Datalink is for the A-10C datalink. Not relevant to other aircraft.

 

Were your two clients in the same group, or in separate groups? Just thinking that the ability to have multiple players in the same group is fairly recent and maybe the JTAC script might not work properly with it.

 

Yes we was in the same group. This is the trick?

I've simply thought how a single JTAC can handle 2 aircrafts asking for targets at the same time. Then how the JTAC will provide priority to a client instead of another? That's working? I mean 2 clients in 2 differents groups?

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Yes we was in the same group. This is the trick?

I've simply thought how a single JTAC can handle 2 aircrafts asking for targets at the same time. Then how the JTAC will provide priority to a client instead of another? That's working? I mean 2 clients in 2 differents groups?

 

If you make a Mission with a Group of planes like ship of 2 planes only the leader can talk externally to any friendly unit on the ground like JTAC

If you make 2 planes in Mission editor as 2 groups of 1 planes each of them is a leader of their own group and can use JTAC

 

This is how it is be it realistic or not or how it seams to be and you need to plan for this before you make your mission

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Yes we was in the same group. This is the trick?

I've simply thought how a single JTAC can handle 2 aircrafts asking for targets at the same time. Then how the JTAC will provide priority to a client instead of another? That's working? I mean 2 clients in 2 differents groups?

 

I stongly recommend to not use one JTAC with two players simultaneusly. I've made bad experiences with that in the past (conflicting taskings and radio messages, sometimes causing the JTAC to get stuck in the process). It's better to just let one player do the talking. The other player can still react on the JTACs taskings. or just give each player their own JTAC.

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Posted
If you make a Mission with a Group of planes like ship of 2 planes only the leader can talk externally to any friendly unit on the ground like JTAC

If you make 2 planes in Mission editor as 2 groups of 1 planes each of them is a leader of their own group and can use JTAC

 

This is how it is be it realistic or not or how it seams to be and you need to plan for this before you make your mission

Ok I'm not complaining about this.

My question is: It is possible to allow the wingman attacking a JTAC's designated target? (after the talk between wingleader and JTAC)

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Can somebody create some practice missions? would be very helpful

cheers

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Ok I'm not complaining about this.

My question is: It is possible to allow the wingman attacking a JTAC's designated target? (after the talk between wingleader and JTAC)

 

Yes, if the flight lead asks the JTAC to lase the target the wingmen should also be able to drop the bomb instead. At least i think it works.

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Posted
Can somebody create some practice missions? would be very helpful

cheers

 

Agree! I'm getting crazy to make it works correctly. Some time it responds, sometimes no, sometimes it lase sometimes no.

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