Stretch Posted September 29, 2016 Posted September 29, 2016 Hey all, I'm updating my VAC profiles for the F-5E and I'm wondering what the correct terminology a pilot would use with the ground crew to connect/disconnect the huffer and apply air for the start. I figure most of that stuff would be done with hand signals normally but they haven't added that to VAC yet so I'm looking to work with what I got :) Tim "Stretch" Morgan 72nd VFW, 617th VFS Other handles: Strikeout (72nd VFW, 15th MEU Realism Unit), RISCfuture (BMS forums) PC and Peripherals: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/RISCfuture/saved/#view=DMp6XL Win10 x64 — BMS — DCS — P3D
Mad-Mex Posted September 29, 2016 Posted September 29, 2016 I happen to be a USAF "Crew Chief" at the now closed Williams AFB. I work d T-38's , the 425th TFTS with F-5's was also there and if memory serves me right ( it's been 25+ years ) at that base we used to call it a "plush" cart. We hardly ever used verbal commands to start them. When the pilot came out to the aircraft we already had the air hooked up to the right engine. Pilot simply gave us the start signal, then twisting motion to change the air to the left engine, when both were started he gave us the disconnect signal. When we did use verbal commands via the communications chord and headset, it was simply "Air On" "Switch" and "Air Off",,,,,
mvsgas Posted September 29, 2016 Posted September 29, 2016 If your looking for hand signals in the USAF, AFI 11-218 will have most. this is a direct PDF link http://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/af_a3/publication/afi11-218/afi11-218.pdf [ATTACH]149068[/ATTACH] To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Nodak Posted September 30, 2016 Posted September 30, 2016 Assume your looking for verbal voice. "GTC" for a ground turbine cart supplies air only, "dash 60" for combo electrical and air, and a "dash 86" DC electrical cart. Been a few years, things might have changed a bit, but would fit the F-5 era. Plenty of slang terms too, as mentioned huffer, push cart, start cart, or simply air.
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