Veritech Posted October 29, 2016 Posted October 29, 2016 y guys, I'm planning my new rig and I have a hard time deciding between a Predator 4k monitor with an average refresh rate (60) and a Predator 2k with a superior refresh speed. One gives me video quality and the other one high refresh rate, which one would you recomend? I'm in between these two Acer Predator monitors: - Acer Predator XB271HKBMIPRZ 27″ G-SYNC 4K - Acer Predator XB270HU bprz 27″ WQHD IPS G-SYNC A third option, more expensive, would be an extra wide-angle monitor, with a compromise between refresh rate and resolution: - Acer-Predator Z35 G Sync 144 Your opinion on this would be highly appreciated! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Alis Aquilae Aut Pax Aut Bellum" Veritech's DCS YouTube Channel
Chief1942 Posted October 29, 2016 Posted October 29, 2016 I have been running an Acer XB280HK (supposed to be an UHD4K2K monitor)for over a year now and even though it typically runs at the refresh rate of 60, I have been very happy with it. I am running the resolution at 3849 X 2160 at 60hz (recommended). With the G-Sync, I get no tearing and enjoy reasonable framerates with EVERYTHING in the sim maxed out. Using the NTTR map whenever I fly low over the Vegas Strip, I do see a fairly good drop in FPS, around 35 to 40 at worst, otherwise I run at the max 60FPS. Intel i5-4690K Devil's Canyon, GForce TitanX, ASUS Z-97A MB, 16GB GDDR3 GSkill mem, Samsung SSD X3,Track IR, TM Warthog, MFG Crosswind pedals, Acer XB280HK monitor,GAMETRIX KW-908 JETSEAT
Veritech Posted October 30, 2016 Author Posted October 30, 2016 (edited) I have been running an Acer XB280HK (supposed to be an UHD4K2K monitor)for over a year now and even though it typically runs at the refresh rate of 60, I have been very happy with it. I am running the resolution at 3849 X 2160 at 60hz (recommended). With the G-Sync, I get no tearing and enjoy reasonable framerates with EVERYTHING in the sim maxed out. Using the NTTR map whenever I fly low over the Vegas Strip, I do see a fairly good drop in FPS, around 35 to 40 at worst, otherwise I run at the max 60FPS. Have you used a higher refresh rate monitor before? Does the (enemy) aicraft visibility gets better or worse with 4k? Edited October 30, 2016 by Veritech [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Alis Aquilae Aut Pax Aut Bellum" Veritech's DCS YouTube Channel
BitMaster Posted October 30, 2016 Posted October 30, 2016 To have more than 60fps on 4k you need more oomps than any card right now can deliver reliably. IMHO time is not ripe for 4k cause it just costs too much and speed is still not quite on par with good 1080/1440p setups. If I was you, pick 1440p and 144/166Hz and enjoy the smoothness Gsync can deliver. I run 1440p/Gsync and i love it over all other parts in my game rig :) Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Veritech Posted October 30, 2016 Author Posted October 30, 2016 I might follow your advice! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Alis Aquilae Aut Pax Aut Bellum" Veritech's DCS YouTube Channel
Veritech Posted October 30, 2016 Author Posted October 30, 2016 Now, again, should I go for Resolution or Refresh? ACER Predator Z35 G-Sync 144-200Hz Gaming Monitor Or Acer Predator X34 Curved IPS NVIDIA G-sync Gaming Monitor [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Alis Aquilae Aut Pax Aut Bellum" Veritech's DCS YouTube Channel
BitMaster Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 IPS is slower in response and "usually" has a motion blurr you cannot avoid, no matter the price, therefor you have "usually" the better colours @ less fps. TN based panels are faster in every aspect, view angle is a few degrees less than IPS but overall better for gaming if one prefers speed and smoothness over true colours and better black. For gaming my choice is TN ( I own a Gsync 1440p ) and for work/video etc. I use Mac and their IPS screens. If I only had 1 to pick....TN SPEED and SMOOTHNESS over eyecandy Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Veritech Posted November 1, 2016 Author Posted November 1, 2016 IPS is slower in response and "usually" has a motion blurr you cannot avoid, no matter the price, therefor you have "usually" the better colours @ less fps. TN based panels are faster in every aspect, view angle is a few degrees less than IPS but overall better for gaming if one prefers speed and smoothness over true colours and better black. For gaming my choice is TN ( I own a Gsync 1440p ) and for work/video etc. I use Mac and their IPS screens. If I only had 1 to pick....TN SPEED and SMOOTHNESS over eyecandy Which monitor do you own? The IPS that I listed has a refresh of 100... looks like a nice compromise. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Alis Aquilae Aut Pax Aut Bellum" Veritech's DCS YouTube Channel
BitMaster Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 Asus PG278Q, 1440p, 1ms, 144Hz, Gsync FYI: Gsync runs on DP only Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Veritech Posted November 1, 2016 Author Posted November 1, 2016 Asus PG278Q, 1440p, 1ms, 144Hz, Gsync FYI: Gsync runs on DP only Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk What is DP? Sorry for too many questions, I'm going back to the PC realm after many years and things changed a shitload! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Alis Aquilae Aut Pax Aut Bellum" Veritech's DCS YouTube Channel
Veritech Posted November 1, 2016 Author Posted November 1, 2016 What's bad about a monitor running in DP and not HDMI? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Alis Aquilae Aut Pax Aut Bellum" Veritech's DCS YouTube Channel
BitMaster Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 What's bad about a monitor running in DP and not HDMI? It's a pain if you own multiple PC's and fix PC's and many older ones dont have DP. The Adapters I have all dont work, neither to HDMI or DVI, max I get is half a screen@ 60Hz for Bios, then it's black. That's all. Was happy if it had another one but Nvidia says Gsync protocol demands DP. Maybe HDMI 2.0 would work but there is none on those either. Also...DP..has no sound. I like sound on my monitor for the easy things, like VoiceBox or YT. Some malus for a otherwise perfect screen Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Veritech Posted November 1, 2016 Author Posted November 1, 2016 It's a pain if you own multiple PC's and fix PC's and many older ones dont have DP. The Adapters I have all dont work, neither to HDMI or DVI, max I get is half a screen@ 60Hz for Bios, then it's black. That's all. Was happy if it had another one but Nvidia says Gsync protocol demands DP. Maybe HDMI 2.0 would work but there is none on those either. Also...DP..has no sound. I like sound on my monitor for the easy things, like VoiceBox or YT. Some malus for a otherwise perfect screen Well... I only plan to have one monitor, next upgrade would be VR. Not planning to use the monitor's speakers. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Alis Aquilae Aut Pax Aut Bellum" Veritech's DCS YouTube Channel
BitMaster Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 What is DP? Sorry for too many questions, I'm going back to the PC realm after many years and things changed a shitload! DP = Display Port in contrast to HDMI/DVI Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Veritech Posted November 1, 2016 Author Posted November 1, 2016 DP = Display Port in contrast to HDMI/DVI Thanks for the info and patience man! Appreciated. Read what I've written above and give me your opinion! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Alis Aquilae Aut Pax Aut Bellum" Veritech's DCS YouTube Channel
BitMaster Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 I would buy mine again over the IPS. I own IPS's as well and agreed, they look better, but TN is for gamers. I would also stay at 27" and not 34". 1440p looks good till 27", any bigger and your pixels are matchbox size again ( I prefer 4k on 15" Laptops tbh ). Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Veritech Posted November 1, 2016 Author Posted November 1, 2016 I would buy mine again over the IPS. I own IPS's as well and agreed, they look better, but TN is for gamers. I would also stay at 27" and not 34". 1440p looks good till 27", any bigger and your pixels are matchbox size again ( I prefer 4k on 15" Laptops tbh ). Don't forget that 1440 p is in an ultrawide.... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Alis Aquilae Aut Pax Aut Bellum" Veritech's DCS YouTube Channel
BitMaster Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 Ultrawide, whatever, the larger the screen with same resolution the larger the pixels themselves. I never wanted a 27" but that was the smallest I found with Gsync and all the other values, I am no fan of big screens unless pixel density doesnt suffer. Apple's 5k 27" is great, even when damn close. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
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