First impression.

[zero]

After a week with both work and pleasure in 2.5 Normandy.

 

Love both Mustang and the Dora.

 

I wanted to treat myself with a new aircraft in the bug free 1.5 environment and a plug and play aircraft that work 100% out of the box.

 

My benchmark is the A10C - but it takes days to refresh if you been away for a while. I want something less demanding. Especially the HUD needs to be more readable than A10C.

 

I own F-86 Sabre, but never really got to be a friend of this bird. Do not why.

 

I was looking for a sweet spot between A10C and F-86. Air to Air and hit things on the ground. A French bird was not on the top of list, but finally the choice was between F-5 and M2000. The clear HUD made me draw the credit card for the M2000.

 

Love at first free flight. Despite French, systems are intuitive. For me the learning curve is very satisfactory. Fly - Read the manual- Watch tutorials. Fly again. Start up and landings. One slight frustration was the idle detent. Engine did not start.

 

Fly By wire - no flaps. No trim needed. Still does not feel arcadish. Only nasty surprise is the deep stall. Even full AB does not get you out of it. Pitch down and hope you have enough altitude.

 

Even without a single HOTAS button yet programmed, I am able to fly and use basic systems. Now the fun starts with radar and HUD details. Time to dig in a few chapters and watch youtube tutorials.

:book: then :pilotfly:

 

 

Thanks for aircraft!

No doubt my new DCS favorite now.

:thumbup:

[jojo]

Hi, what did you do to enter "deep stall" please ?

If you could provide a track it would be even better.

 

https://hushkit.net/2016/10/13/mirage-2000-pilot-interview-cutting-it-in-the-electric-cakeslice/

I managed to put a Mirage 2000 into the vertical whilst being chased and held the manoeuvre a few seconds too long – when I looked into my HUD I was in the pure vertical at 60 knots and decelerating ! As we hit Zero the aircraft began to slide backwards and the ‘burner blew out. My heart-rate increased. As the aircraft went beyond its design envelope, the nose simply flopped over pointing earthwards – with a few small turns the airspeed picked up. As I hit 200 knots I simply flew the aircraft back to straight and level.

 

This is the only known way to stall the aircraft, and there's nothing special to do recover.

 

Even better the video of the interview:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3158484&postcount=14

Edited June 4, 2017 by jojo

[Dehuman]

This is the only known way to stall the aircraft, and there's nothing special to do recover.

 

Um, you know what a stall is?

 

I suspect he is referring to when you don't manage your energy and find yourself without any lift and too much AOA induced drag to accelerate and not enough altitude to nose down.

This is a stall.

[jojo]

Um, you know what a stall is?

 

I suspect he is referring to when you don't manage your energy and find yourself without any lift and too much AOA induced drag to accelerate and not enough altitude to nose down.

This is a stall.

 

And do you know the FBW should prevent that ? But you can still manage to hit the ground without stall.

 

By the way yes, I know what stall is, I did stall and spin IRL too :smilewink: (general aviation, I don't pretend to be a fighter pilot)

Edited June 4, 2017 by jojo

[=Pedro=]

And do you know the FBW should prevent that ? But you can still manage to hit the ground without stall.

 

By the way yes, I know what stall is, I did stall and spin IRL too :smilewink: (general aviation, I don't pretend to be a fighter pilot)

 

:megalol:

[zero]

There is no autothrottle - unless the FBW should kick nose down at critical high AoA, you can go outside envelope. At least I did a couple of times during test.

 

Idle. then keep nose up. I was able to keep this attitude all the time. Sink rate increased. Full AB did not help. Still high AoA and falling with no airspeed increase.. Only when I pushed stick forward I was able to increase airspeed.

 

I could have missed something in cockpit prep. Was very inpatient to get airborne.

:D.

BTW.

I miss procedures (Operational Manual). Chuck files does not exist.

 

Flying is easy.

Push the pin forward and the houses getting bigger.

Pull the pin back and the houses getting smaller.

Holding the pin back longer, and houses will grow bigger again.

:joystick:

[jojo]

Then there is a problem.

 

It's normal to go down nose up with stick back and throttle idle. But MIL thrust should bring flight path up.

[zero]

Then there is a problem.

 

It's normal to go down nose up with stick back and throttle idle. But MIL thrust should bring flight path up.

 

OK.

Tried again.

Max AoA. Speed 106. Sinkrate -200. Full AB.

Stick neutral.

I will check calibrations.

[Tripleinside]

yes, this is true IRL... not so in DCS since the last flight model was implemented...

see at 0:52 and 3:37 in this vid:

=> slow speed, high incidence... the plane is "seating" on the engine, not dropping altitude alarmingly (not even sure the altitude dropped at all actually)... when AB is applied, it gets out of the nose up attitude without a problem, and shoots off...

In DCS, you'd be at the end of a parachute, or with your head in the mud...

 

The video above shows how powerful the mirage is and efficient the FBW is in reality, at slow speeds and high AOA... the module in its current version is miles off afaic...

Edited June 4, 2017 by Tripleinside

[zero]

I like to correct myself.

It is not during stall. When the bird shakes, it drops nose down, and recover.

But there is a very small window that I am able to create this situation.

Burn some fuel, and the aircraft is light enough to push out.

 

Edit:

Great vid! thanks!

Hard to tell - if the airspeed was high enough - say 130 - the sim is not far away I guess.

 

Anyway. I found this situation by pure accident. Take some work to get into it.

A very minor issue for me. Enough power to to turn and burn. A qualified guess: Very close to F-16!

Edited June 4, 2017 by zero

[zero]

He had a little SNAFU with updating his folders, should be back up in a few weeks :D

 

For now, try this one: Chuck's M2000C guide

 

GREAT!!!!

EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR!!!!

:worthy: