Buy the Viggen or Gazelle?

[TonyStovepipe]

Hi all.

 

I bought the Huey yesterday and I'm looking at buying another module in the sale.

Already have now the Huey, A10c and FC3 pack.

 

I really like the Gazelle but not sure what bugs it still has and the updates seem to have stopped?

 

The Viggen looks nice but I'm worried as I have the A10c I mite find it too much the same?

 

Thanks for any information and happy Christmas :pilotfly:

[sze5003]

A10c and Viggen are two different species. You can loiter with an A10, use mavericks and take a lot of damage if you know what you're doing.

 

Viggen is a fast low altitude bomber. It's best used for pre-planned routes where you fly low, fast, drop ordinance and RTB immediately. It's also used for recon to mark targets with smoke for other pilots.

 

I love the viggen and I wasn't sure about it. The sounds in the cockpit, the auto throttle for landing is really a big help, and the ammo release cues are very helpful. You can learn the viggen and basic controls of it faster than the A10. The A10 is one of my favorites for sure. When I tried to go into the Air Force thats what I wanted to fly.

 

I like the viggen because it's a lazy pilot's plane. It will require some misison planning or you can get user missions. Fly to the waypoint, get low, get fast and do your job. Very simple because you don't need to worry about other factors which you normally would in jets that can loiter around the target area.

 

I have the ka50 too but never learned the helos. There are also a few tutorial misisons posted by users here with videos of them so you know what to do. This thing is super fast and has a nice feel to flying it. Hopefully this helped, from a casual standpoint. I don't regret purchasing it at all.

[TonyStovepipe]

Thank you very much for the informative post.

 

Taken into account for what you said his well does the viggen handle online where mostly targets are unknown.

 

I started playing on the 104 server and locating targets even in the A10 can be hard until shooting starts on another aircraft.

 

Thank you.

[sze5003]

Locating targets online can be tough because you will need to learn the navigation system and set a waypoint as your target waypoint. This is not hard to do but this jet is best used where there is an airfield or target bombing area at a waypoint. Once you have a general sense of where the waypoint is and where targets are at the waypoint you just fly it there and set the Piper near the targets. The computer will tell you with the two horizontal lines as they get closer and the Piper will start to blink when in range to release.

 

For online it's best to have another plane mark targets for you with smoke. Or if you learn the nav system which I have not done, you can enter coordinates into the system so you can fly in that general area then scope around for targets.

[Johnny_Rico]

If you have pedals and are interested in choppers try the KA-50

[Oubaas]

The Viggen. But do pick up the Gazelle later on.

[Fri13]

A-10C and Viggen are very much apart from every other case than dropping bombs.

 

The A-10C is like a air patrol above combat area and stays there and does now and then dives to enemy when called when required by ground troops. It is slow and it will get shot down because that as it ain't so well armored as many claims, as every MBT, BMP and BTR down there is capable to shoot everything from 12.7mm to 30mm that will most likely in first hit destroy your ECM system or knock a other engine or wing and if you don't come down, you 3/4 of the time need to return to base. So you stay away from combat, you use your TGP pod to observe and target from long range and then you use stand-off weapons like Mavericks to do the work.

 

With Viggen it is more opposite that you are given a pre-defined targets, you fly low, you fly fast, you deliver the weapons on site in 1-2 overfly and you return to base. You don't take much hits either but your speed and your extremely low altitude are your friends as you do the pop-up from behind terrain 7-10 seconds before turn and head home.

Viggen is a strike fighter, so you need to as well learn to quickly target and release Mavericks in two pass, in both two missiles at the time.

With a Viggen you can do maritime operations, anti-ship and all that what A-10C can't do.

 

What comes to Gazelle, it really ain't "heavy combat capable" in my humble opinion. You get three variants with it, a Anti-Tank that is little limited by four missiles. That is because you should be there flying with 3-4 helicopter flight to operate together, so alone you don't have much armament.

Then you get the cannon/rocket variant where you have few rockets for area effect and then cannon to shoot lightly armored targets. Again little unarmed if anyone is shooting back at you.

Reason being that the AI in DCS can spot you in seconds in first time (<10 seconds) after you come to their visual range (coded circle) and every time after that they react just faster and faster so only limiting penalty is their turret rotation speed. So if you pop-up from hill for a second for recon and get back down and pop-up while later or little further, you don't have the time anymore to do anything as the AI will shoot you. And in Gazelle you are dead as you are a "goldfish inside a glass ball".

But maybe most interesting variant is the "Mistral" version, you get a couple Air-to-Air missiles and you can go hunt a low-level "Air Quake" pilots in servers. That likely is the most fun and useful as you just hover somewhere town or behind ridges next to trees (or even inside trees as current doesn't model damages) and when you see a fighter, you surprise them.

 

If you are interested for helicopter combat, then KA-50 is the best. You get to carry 12 AT missiles, a lot of 80mm rockets and "sniper cannon" up to 4km. You are the recon, intelligence and executioner in same package. You even would have a excellent Air-to-Air capability with Vikhr missiles if we just would have implemented the correct targeting system capabilities and Vikhr would have its fragmentation sleeve programming possibility (you flip a switch in cockpit for A-A mode and Vikhr uses proximity sensor and fragmentation sleeve with capability Head-On for fast movers) but if you train enough you get to hunt down a lot of A-10 and Su-25 (and Harriers now).

 

But if you want a helicopter and have some other fun like transport troops but still operate in combat, then UH-1H and Mi-8MTv2 are great options too.

But as you are more interested about fast movers and modules in sale, I would even maybe consider the Mirage.

But from those two you ask, I would go to Viggen if for fast mover, or Gazelle if later on want to do the more pop-up tasks in upgraded Caucasus map, as it really requires those new trees so you can hover behind them.

 

One of the specialities that Viggen has now, is the RWR recording. Where you can do a recon ops to locate the radars by coordinates after mission and then go after them in next sortie.

[TonyStovepipe]

Thank you very much.

 

I got the Huey for the fun factor and I will take another look at the Gazelle next year after some more updates.

 

Cheers.