Got some RWR information from fighter pilot podcast

[StandingCow]

I posted this on hoggit but this may help folks here too (ED included). I asked Jello from the Fighter Pilot Podcast about the RWR, specifically if higher threats are on the outside or inside, and apparently... it changed a few times.

 

" It used to be one and then it changed to the other--to be honest, I don't remember where it ended last. Let's go with the outer ring because you get better azimuth of arrival accuracy that way. "

 

 

So, either way could really be the correct way, no wonder there has been so much confusion.

[Charly_Owl]

We really need some input from ED to clarify the way they simulate it... at the moment it's not clear at all.

[BSS_Sniper]

They have access to current f18 pilots and are using them.

[StandingCow]

They have access to current f18 pilots and are using them.

 

 

I don't think anyone is questioning that, ED told us as much. But now we know (this is the first I have seen anyway) that it did in fact change... perhaps multiple times. All I have seen so far is, "my guy said it is this way", "no! my guy said it's that way!".

[BSS_Sniper]

I don't think anyone is questioning that, ED told us as much. But now we know (this is the first I have seen anyway) that it did in fact change... perhaps multiple times. All I have seen so far is, "my guy said it is this way", "no! my guy said it's that way!".

 

I guess you’re ssking which way is implemented? If not, I am wondering now.

[StandingCow]

I guess you’re ssking which way is implemented? If not, I am wondering now.

 

 

From what I was told by Jello... it changed. Now if that was an official change or the RWR is programmable so the pilot can change it how he wants, I don't know.

[probad]

" Let's go with the outer ring because you get better azimuth of arrival accuracy that way. "

guy's got a good point, i was arriving at the same conclusion yesterday

 

at the moment it's not clear at all.

what's not clear about it?

[backspace340]

what's not clear about it?

 

He's saying it's not clear which is the correct way of displaying it for our Hornet - critical on the outside ring, or on the inner ring.

 

For context, there were conflicting pieces of information about what the correct way was - which ended up causing some disagreements about who was correct / spreading misinformation. Even ED had it muddled - it was one way in the guide and a different way in the Sim. Now StandingCow has information that both were correct at different times, but we've had no word from ED on which one they see as correct and which one they're going to stick with.

[probad]

does it matter then? if both ways are correct then whichever state it's in should be equally acceptable. that's like literally the meaning of "both ways are correct"

 

seems like you guys are more concerned about being vindicated in a forumfight than you are about simply using the rwr as a tool.

Edited June 12, 2018 by probad

[backspace340]

does it matter then? if both ways are correct then whichever state it's in should be equally acceptable.

 

It matters to Charly_Owl because he (I assume) is Chuck of Chuck's Guides, and he doesn't want to keep changing that bit of his guide trying to guess which way ED is going to decide is final.

[probad]

just write that either way is correct, and you just look for the contacts that stick out from the rest

 

its a really simple and intuitive concept

[backspace340]

just write that either way is correct, and you just look for the contacts that stick out from the rest

 

its a really simple and intuitive concept

 

Then you'll have people misunderstanding and vectoring themselves onto friendly EWRs that 'stick out from the rest' in the non-lethal zone. I'm sure ED won't mind giving some confirmation and it's not a silly thing to ask for.

[lemoen]

I don't understand why people are saying "We should get clarity from ED how they do this", we know how it is right now, lethal is outside currently. There is nothing to clear up here. The only question that remains is whether this is really true for the Lot20 Hornet or not but it seems that RWRs worked both ways IRL in the past so either is 'correct' to some extent.

[backspace340]

I don't understand why people are saying "We should get clarity from ED how they do this", we know how it is right now, lethal is outside currently. There is nothing to clear up here. The only question that remains is whether this is really true for the Lot20 Hornet or not but it seems that RWRs worked both ways IRL in the past so either is 'correct' to some extent.

 

Well currently the Early Access Guide and the Sim don't match - so either the guide is going to change or the Sim is. I don't understand why people are saying it's not useful to know which is 'correct' in ED's eyes - especially for content creators.

[lemoen]

I see, I didn't bother reading the guide. AFAIC the implementation is the truth as it stands.

[probad]

Well currently the Early Access Guide and the Sim don't match - so either the guide is going to change or the Sim is.

the official product has both credit and precedence over a thirdparty guide written by a non-sme

Edited June 12, 2018 by probad

[lemoen]

the official product has both credit and precedence over a thirdparty guide written by a non-sme

 

 

 

I think they’re saying the official guide has it opposite as whats in game.

 

 

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[probad]

my bad then, i thought he was still going on about chucks guide.

[Charly_Owl]

the official product has both credit and precedence over a thirdparty guide written by a non-sme

 

That's my point exactly: the Early Access guide by ED and the behaviour in-sim do not match. That's why I want to know which one is the "true" intended behaviour (in-sim bug to be fixed as per manual or manual to be edited to match in-sim behaviour).

 

I'm pretty sure it is fairly obvious already that my documentation shouldn't take precedence over anything (being a non-SME and all) but I think that should've been obvious enough already just by the fact that I was asking this question.