How to utilize the formation lights properly for formation flying

[Eagle7907]

I’ve noticed that for a good bearing and altitude you want the wingtip light to be between and in line with the nose and tail lights. When you hold that position you are slightly lower than the lead and on a somewhat acceptable bearing.

 

 

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[Brun]

I’ve noticed that for a good bearing and altitude you want the wingtip light to be between and in line with the nose and tail lights. When you hold that position you are slightly lower than the lead and on a somewhat acceptable bearing.

That's already been established, but it doesn't give you any cues on separation.

 

The only suggestion that's been offered (as far as I'm aware) is to take a mental note of the formation lights (presumably the ones on the tail and rear fuselage) during the day and position according to that. I'm not the only one who seems to think that's rather vague, and doesn't seem very plausible considering how strictly defined this business usually is.

[Eagle7907]

That's already been established, but it doesn't give you any cues on separation.

 

 

 

The only suggestion that's been offered (as far as I'm aware) is to take a mental note of the formation lights (presumably the ones on the tail and rear fuselage) during the day and position according to that. I'm not the only one who seems to think that's rather vague, and doesn't seem very plausible considering how strictly defined this business usually is.

 

 

 

Oh good. I didn’t see anyone specifically mention that. As far as separation goes I believe you’re right. I don’t think there is any source of light that will give you closure distance on formation lights. Just bearing and height.

 

I use the wingtip light instead since it’s the most protruding light for estimating separation.

 

 

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[Fresh]

I've made some pictures for you.

Basically lineup the three horizontal lights. The middle (wingtip) light tells you if you are acute (ahead) or sucked (behind). Put the wingtip light in between the nose and tail light. If the wingtip light is high, your position is low and vice-versa. The vertical light on the vertical stabilator helps to give you a sense of distance and orientation.

See the file names for an explanation. File names got changed... editing to help...

OK:

\
  -   =   -
 
Sucked:

\
  -     = -


Acute:
\
  - =     -


Low:
      
\     =
  -       -


High:
\
  -       -
      =

 

For info: I am not a military pilot, just sharing with you how I do it.

Edited September 21, 2023 by Fresh

[Callsign JoNay]

11 hours ago, Fresh said:

I've made some pictures for you.

Basically lineup the three horizontal lights. The middle (wingtip) light tells you if you are acute (ahead) or sucked (behind). Put the wingtip light in between the nose and tail light. If the wingtip light is high, your position is low and vice-versa. The vertical light on the vertical stabilator helps to give you a sense of distance and orientation.

See the file names for an explanation. File names got changed... editing to help...

OK:

\
  -   =   -
 
Sucked:

\
  -     = -


Acute:
\
  - =     -


Low:
      
\     =
  -       -


High:
\
  -       -
      =

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