RocketmanAL Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) So I recently bought a 500 GB 860 EVO to store DCS. I'd previously had it installed on the 256 GB 840 PRO that I also use as a boot drive, but I was running out of space. I play DCS through a Rift headset on a 1080TI GPU. Ever since I transferred DCS I am getting terrible frame drops in game. Going from 45 FPS to the 20s. I tried reinstalling on my C drive and it works fine, no frame drops. I have the settings the same on both versions, they actually pull from my saved games folder on my C drive. I did NOT install all of the many modules that are on the E drive to the C drive. Both SSDs are on Sata 3 6Gb/s port. I tried swapping the port for the 860 but it didn't help. I've also tried reducing settings to the minimum, but no help. Currently the C drive has 108 GB of used space, of which only 49.4 GB are DCS related. My E has 143 GB or space used, of which 134 GB is DCS related. Steps I've taken so far are: Trying another port for the E drive. Reduced game settings. RAPID mode on E Drive. Installing Oculus on E drive. Defragging E drive. Confirmed AHCI settings. Samsung Magician Benchmark 840: Sequential: Read- 557, Write-511 /Random: Read- 79101, Write- 71533 860: Sequential: Read- 3877, Write-4054 /Random: Read- 134521, Write- 67626 Motherboard is Z97 Extreme6. 16GB DDR3 RAM Would appreciate any help I can get figuring out if this is a bad SSD or if I'm missing something. Edited July 5, 2018 by RocketmanAL
hansangb Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 Hmm, I can't see how adding another SSD would cause that much of an issue. Maybe as a start, do the usual first? Try deleting the metashaders folder in you C:\users\Your_User_Name\SAVED GAMES directory to see if that helps? Another would be to a) Copy off your SAVED GAMES first since it has the HOTAS configs, logbookes etc, and b) Delete the SAVED GAMES subfolders (after doing A first!!) and let DCS rebuild it? hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
RocketmanAL Posted July 5, 2018 Author Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) Hmm, I can't see how adding another SSD would cause that much of an issue. Maybe as a start, do the usual first? Try deleting the metashaders folder in you C:\users\Your_User_Name\SAVED GAMES directory to see if that helps? Another would be to a) Copy off your SAVED GAMES first since it has the HOTAS configs, logbookes etc, and b) Delete the SAVED GAMES subfolders (after doing A first!!) and let DCS rebuild it? I did delete everything except config and missions in the saved games folder. Afterwards the stutter only went down into the 30s, instead of the 20s. I'll try deleting the whole folder. Edit: Deleted the whole Saved Games folder. No fix on the stutter every few seconds. I'm also noticing that I'm getting pretty low FPS in general. For the SU-25T Target practice mission, which I'm using for a baseline, I'm topping out at 30 FPS for default settings. Edited July 5, 2018 by RocketmanAL Update
BitMaster Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 Turn off RAPID Mode for testing and make sure you are running the latest Firmware for the 860 drive. Samsung has a history of broken firmware and other mishaps tho their drives are at the very very top of the ladder since the 830 and 840 series. Unfortunately, this is no garanty for a troublefree experience. DO NOT DEFRAG a SSD ! Win10 luckily will NOT do it but use the built-in TRIM command to manage the drive. The menue to check this, along with the button to let it run manually, is at the same place as the HDD's defrag options in 10's Cpanel. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
RocketmanAL Posted July 5, 2018 Author Posted July 5, 2018 Samsung has a history of broken firmware and other mishaps tho their drives are at the very very top of the ladder since the 830 and 840 series. Unfortunately, this is no garanty for a troublefree experience. DO NOT DEFRAG a SSD ! Win10 luckily will NOT do it but use the built-in TRIM command to manage the drive. The menue to check this, along with the button to let it run manually, is at the same place as the HDD's defrag options in 10's Cpanel. You're right, I didn't defrag. Just the optimize. I can't seem to find any firmware for the 860 series. Just the 850. Have they not released any yet?
dugite57 Posted July 6, 2018 Posted July 6, 2018 Yesterday I put an 1TB EVO860 SSD into my old (2013) system, moved DCS from existing HDD onto SSD and all my stuttering has disappeared. My OS is on an old 256 EVO840, which is where the pagefile is. Probably a stab in the dark, but make sure you have the SATA3 cable, not an old 1.2 or 2 or whatever, they all have the same plug.
RocketmanAL Posted July 6, 2018 Author Posted July 6, 2018 Yesterday I put an 1TB EVO860 SSD into my old (2013) system, moved DCS from existing HDD onto SSD and all my stuttering has disappeared. My OS is on an old 256 EVO840, which is where the pagefile is. Probably a stab in the dark, but make sure you have the SATA3 cable, not an old 1.2 or 2 or whatever, they all have the same plug. It's a 6 GB/s cable. Haven't physically swapped out cables, but I doubt that's the issue. Got off the phone with Samsung and was told "Our drive works fine, not our problem." So I guess I'm going to reduce the number of modules installed and see if that helps.
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