Doum76 Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 Here i am flying the Hornet after it came out, and decide to finaly try dogfighting, haven't dogfighted since early staged of the M-2000k... which was a long time ago, and same song, AI haven't changed much and now i remember why i stoped back then, if i could resume the AI's fighte .lua codes it would be: Infinite Vertical Loop Reapeat=True Different Maneuvers=False I, AI can defy Gravity physics=True Player folowing me has to face Avanced Flight Characteristic and i don't hahaha=True :P Moral of the story, i suck at Dogfighting, i'll stick to Case I stuff :P
David OC Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 What aircraft are you trying to dogfight Doum76? The quick F-18 missions are random skill, I open these in the editor and change them to hard. You can start on easy.:D Start with guns only and keep her at 360 to 400 kts in the hud, yes the AI can be tricky and seem to defy Gravity at times. I've been meaning to do a quick video showing this, if I get time later I may post a quick one. i7-7700K OC @ 5Ghz | ASUS IX Hero MB | ASUS GTX 1080 Ti STRIX | 32GB Corsair 3000Mhz | Corsair H100i V2 Radiator | Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVMe 500G SSD | Samsung 850 EVO 500G SSD | Corsair HX850i Platinum 850W | Oculus Rift | ASUS PG278Q 27-inch, 2560 x 1440, G-SYNC, 144Hz, 1ms | VKB Gunfighter Pro Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Download PDF Tutorial guides to help get up to speed with aircraft quickly and also great for taking a good look at the aircraft available for DCS before purchasing. Link
StandingCow Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) I can't tell you how many times I heard on GAW server, "I am on the bandit's 6... oh nevermind he ran into the ground". I guess the AI can't be killed if they kill themselves first. :D Edited August 24, 2018 by StandingCow 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo
Doum76 Posted August 24, 2018 Author Posted August 24, 2018 What aircraft are you trying to dogfight Doum76? The quick F-18 missions are random skill, I open these in the editor and change them to hard. You can start on easy.:D Start with guns only and keep her at 360 to 400 kts in the hud, yes the AI can be tricky and seem to defy Gravity at times. I've been meaning to do a quick video showing this, if I get time later I may post a quick one. Doesn't matter which one, i tried SU-27, then F-5 (i tried them all back them, from the M-2000k, F-15c, F-16, Su-33, name it), it simply goes on infinite vertical loop when he's on defensive until you ended up almost stalling then he start flying on your 6, you shake him, he starts going vertical again, but if you folow, you end up in a never ending or almost never ending vertical looping, at the point i ended up saying, ****it i'm not gonna get a neck turn over flying in VR for some stupid AI. :) And keeping a 350-400 is hard vs them as they get infinite fuel i presume cuz they are always on ful burners going vertical loop if i keep burners on to maintain 400, i'll end up dry faster then them no matter the aircraft they are. I just find it unpleasant, but i am too bad to go versus humans. I ended up tonight by telling myself « enough with this shit » i simply flown close to the cround vertical until he smashed the ground, i then loged out DCS. :) Got to say it's the first time i try dogfighting in VR, back then was with a TIR, which made whings for me 100 time easier and less neck-painful :)
VZ_342 Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 Doesn't matter which one, i tried SU-27, then F-5 (i tried them all back them, from the M-2000k, F-15c, F-16, Su-33, name it), it simply goes on infinite vertical loop when he's on defensive until you ended up almost stalling then he start flying on your 6, you shake him, he starts going vertical again, but if you folow, you end up in a never ending or almost never ending vertical looping, at the point i ended up saying, ****it i'm not gonna get a neck turn over flying in VR for some stupid AI. :) And keeping a 350-400 is hard vs them as they get infinite fuel i presume cuz they are always on ful burners going vertical loop if i keep burners on to maintain 400, i'll end up dry faster then them no matter the aircraft they are. I just find it unpleasant, but i am too bad to go versus humans. I ended up tonight by telling myself « enough with this shit » i simply flown close to the cround vertical until he smashed the ground, i then loged out DCS. :) Got to say it's the first time i try dogfighting in VR, back then was with a TIR, which made whings for me 100 time easier and less neck-painful :) Ask for a wingman who's willing to fly in a training mindset. It's just as much fun, and certainly more satisfying, to bring someone up to speed imho. No shooting involved, just verbal "Ratatatat, guns kill" as well as real-time coaching in BFM.
Doum76 Posted August 24, 2018 Author Posted August 24, 2018 What aircraft are you trying to dogfight Doum76? The quick F-18 missions are random skill, I open these in the editor and change them to hard. You can start on easy.:D Start with guns only and keep her at 360 to 400 kts in the hud, yes the AI can be tricky and seem to defy Gravity at times. I've been meaning to do a quick video showing this, if I get time later I may post a quick one. You know the funny thing, i just made a test, i never tried the F-5 as i do not own the module, i do not know how of a drinker that bird is, but i made the AI with 1,000 lbs of fuel, as i made it spawn he didn't engaged me cuz he was low fuel, but still, he flown away passed me for about 12 minutes, which out of those 12 minutes, easily 7 minutes with full burners on, i ended up shppting him down, either F-5's doesn'T drink a lot, or AI has unlimited fuel :)
Doum76 Posted August 24, 2018 Author Posted August 24, 2018 Ask for a wingman who's willing to fly in a training mindset. It's just as much fun, and certainly more satisfying, to bring someone up to speed imho. No shooting involved, just verbal "Ratatatat, guns kill" as well as real-time coaching in BFM. Sounds a good idea, but while being at it, can also make both aircraft invisinble and unlimited amos just for the hekc of listening to the gun firing :)
VZ_342 Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 Sounds a good idea, but while being at it, can also make both aircraft invisinble and unlimited amos just for the hekc of listening to the gun firing :) If it ain't the GAU-8, it may as well have a suppressor!
Doum76 Posted August 24, 2018 Author Posted August 24, 2018 If it ain't the GAU-8, it may as well have a suppressor! Lol believe me, you rather hear any aircraft guns in DCS instead of my french canadian « Ratatata » with an accent who would sound more like a broken canon with a squirrel stucked in the barrels. :P :doh:
Doum76 Posted August 25, 2018 Author Posted August 25, 2018 What aircraft are you trying to dogfight Doum76? The quick F-18 missions are random skill, I open these in the editor and change them to hard. You can start on easy.:D Start with guns only and keep her at 360 to 400 kts in the hud, yes the AI can be tricky and seem to defy Gravity at times. I've been meaning to do a quick video showing this, if I get time later I may post a quick one. After 2 days, i'm getting better now, i'm mostly able to kill my 3 first enemy spawn now before getting bingo, just needed to practice now when to go burners etc.... well it's still strachy my thing but i get them fast enugh after the merge, my energy management is getting a bit better
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