Ai triggering SA-2 detonation too late on "expert"

[D4n]

See track file. in MiG-29S (ukraine), SA-2 missile (all objects set to "excellent" difficulty) passes closely behind my aircraft (maybe that already needs fix?) and detonates some 30-50 meters after passing me. Is this realistic behaviour at this range from tracking radar?

MiG-29S missile detonate too late.trk

Edited September 26, 2018 by DanielNL

[Veritech]

A 30 meters detonation with the S-75’s warhead should blow you out of the sky. Is the warhead the one who needs tuning.

[D4n]

Yep, 200 Kg warhead I read.

[D4n]

Can we have the command fuze/blast radius working soon please?

Edited November 15, 2018 by DanielNL

[Tasmanian]

Can we have the command fuze/blast radius working soon please?

 

Yeah, proximity fuses seem to be broken. I am having TOR barely missing cruise missiles...

[Rex854Warrior]

Along with the Sa-2 doing weird maneuvers when trying to intercept, this makes it completely useless.

[D4n]

Exactly. It almost (almost) looks like ED wants foreign armies to underestimate SA-2 IRL...

[Rex854Warrior]

Here is a track where you can see me evading sa-2 missiles by barely doing any maneuvering and not using any countermeasures, you can see some of the missiles passing at less then 100ft from my aircraft without them detonating, each and everyone of them were within 100m of my aircraft at some point, this is a general problem of DCS, not just for the Sa-2. Warheads and proximity fuzes need to be worked on.

 

EDIT : https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QfYdev5wODXKbgLA0BwF5sbcHYMahmjx

Sa2ProxyFuzeBug.trk

Edited December 9, 2018 by Rex854Warrior
EDIT : Added tacview recording of that track

[D4n]

Yes, ED, can you please acknowledge this faulty behavior before 2019?

[Tasmanian]

And seems like this faulty behavior applies to many, maybe all SAMs...

[D4n]

Is ED working on a tweak for the command-fuze of warhead?

[D4n]

After over 5 months after reporting, can we please have at least a reply by ED to acknowledge knowing about this bug (before fixing it)?

[Dagger71]

I don't think it has ever been ED's policy to acknowledge all bug reports on the forums.

[nighthawk2174]

What's happening is the missile is missing and once it misses the AI self-destruts the missile. Keep in mind this is reasonably accurate as with early SAM's and most missiles usually don't directly hit the target. Its better to think of them as guided AAA shells that are trying to get as close to the target as possible before detonating. We just have to wait for ED to add the proxy fuse code that they added to the AIM7E. So its not a bug (hence the lack of response imo) just a lack of them adding a few lines of code.

 

fuze_proximity = {

ignore_inp_armed = 0,

arm_delay = 0.1,

radius = 6,

},

 

As an example of the code

Edited March 1, 2019 by nighthawk2174

[D4n]

... just a lack of them adding a few lines of code.

Ah yes, an incomplete feature.

[D4n]

Interesting, they removed the smoke after booster separation, and STILL (after another half year) it detonates way behind the target (after passing), even with all units set to "expert" difficulty... the 2nd missile even detotates suuuper far away.

Edited October 27, 2019 by DanielNL