fael097 Posted November 9, 2018 Posted November 9, 2018 I'm suggesting this not only because it's something that bothered me for quite a long time, but also because it's a shame that after all this time it's still working this way. I got specially frustrated with it this week since I recently bought the hornet and was trying to set up it's commands to my warthog hotas for the last few days, so I decided to make a wishlist suggestion as this issue has never been addressed. assume I'm only talking about commands for toggle switches (those that turn on when there's active input, and turn off when there's no more input) not commands for push buttons or keyboard (which turn on when there's input, and only turn off when there's another input). the way I see, currently the "hotas sync at startup" option works like this: so with hotas sync turned off (or probably before there was even the sync option) when you started a mission, the game wouldn't recognize any inputs that were activated before the mission loaded, so if you had a toggle switch in your controller set to ON before entering the mission, for some reason the game wouldn't know, even though the switch is constantly sending input. this is a bad thing because if you have some in game command that is set to ON by default on mission startup, and you assigned it to the mentioned toggle switch, when you want to turn the command OFF, you flip the switch to OFF, but there was no recognized input at first and there's no input now, game thinks it went from nothing to OFF so nothing happens. then you flip it ON and it "works", but the command in game was already ON, so nothing happens again. it only works the third time you flip the switch, when the game recognizes that controller input went from ON to OFF. best case scenario you would start the mission with your toggle switch set to OFF, then you would "only" need two flips for it to work. So without hotas sync, there was no way to make a game command that starts at the ON position work with a toggle switch on the first flip, only commands OFF by default at mission start would work right away, and only if you had your toggle switch set to OFF as well. So the logical thought would be making the game recognize input at mission start if there is a toggle switch set to ON. and this is how I believe that hotas sync works right now, that's the only thing it does, and this works for the worst case scenario, it properly recognizes your first flip as from ON to OFF and turns off the assigned command. but what if you start the mission with this switch flipped to the OFF position, while the game command still starts on ON by default? if it worked properly, hotas sync would have to sync all your assigned game commands to their relative toggle switches positions, regardless of what they're set to, and ignore the default state of this command, and update it to OFF as soon as the game starts. but that's not how it works right now, if you start the mission with a toggle switch turned OFF, it won't do anything since it's not recognizing any input, and the assigned command will still be ON by default, so you still have to flip the switch twice. to me, fixing this sounds as simple as setting the assigned commands to OFF if no input is detected. if I got this wrong please correct me, but I tested this extensively with the hornet, and regardless of how it works, it doesn't work properly, it won't do what it was designed to do which is sync your toggle switches to whatever they're set to, and this really should be fixed. Rafael Ryzen 7 1800x @ 4ghz | MSI GTX 980ti | 32gb DDR4 Ballistix 2400Mhz | Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero (wi-fi) | 480Gb Kingston NVMe ssd | Western Digital 1TB x2 | EVGA 850w PSU | Noctua NH-D14 | NZXT S240 | Windows 10 Pro 64bit | 4k 50" Philips android TV | Dell P2418D | Oculus Rift S | Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas
Bullant Posted November 9, 2018 Posted November 9, 2018 Please make this a thing. Please. Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai, Kola, Afghanistan
fael097 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Posted November 10, 2018 glad at least one other person still didn't give up on this one lol Rafael Ryzen 7 1800x @ 4ghz | MSI GTX 980ti | 32gb DDR4 Ballistix 2400Mhz | Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero (wi-fi) | 480Gb Kingston NVMe ssd | Western Digital 1TB x2 | EVGA 850w PSU | Noctua NH-D14 | NZXT S240 | Windows 10 Pro 64bit | 4k 50" Philips android TV | Dell P2418D | Oculus Rift S | Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas
Bullant Posted November 12, 2018 Posted November 12, 2018 glad at least one other person still didn't give up on this one lol I'm working on a full Hornet pit, whilst it would be nice to do a full switch check before each mission, it would also be nice for the sim to handle picking up the switch positions itself ... just in case. Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai, Kola, Afghanistan
fael097 Posted July 12, 2019 Author Posted July 12, 2019 so this was never looked into Rafael Ryzen 7 1800x @ 4ghz | MSI GTX 980ti | 32gb DDR4 Ballistix 2400Mhz | Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero (wi-fi) | 480Gb Kingston NVMe ssd | Western Digital 1TB x2 | EVGA 850w PSU | Noctua NH-D14 | NZXT S240 | Windows 10 Pro 64bit | 4k 50" Philips android TV | Dell P2418D | Oculus Rift S | Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas
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