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I cold-started my MiG (lazy so used auto-start) but couldn't get the piper and net to show. Switches on ASP itself do nothing.

 

 

I turned on all the weapons power switches on the right cockpit vertical wall, and checked all gyro, generator and power switches on the right horizontal panel were on as well, no luck.

 

 

Any ideas which switch I have set wrong to stop the ASP working?

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OK. I just tried this. It works, even with an automatic start, but you have to do some things after that.

 

I tried with Instant Action - Cold Start mission.

 

I made an automatic start (Left Win + Home).

 

After the starting procedure was over, I turned on the circuit breaker for the gunsight (on the right panel, second black one from the lower row), turned on the two switches from the gunsight (those highlighted by corn322 in his screenshot) and I put the ASP into "Gun" mode (top switch on the left side of the gunsight on Gun/Up position). After that you can put that switch into missile position (down), the net and piper will remain on.

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OK thanks will give that a try when I get the chance!

 

 

I also did a bit more searching and seems the gunsight might not work when the "auxiliary inverter" is turned on. I searched the manual and there's no such thing, I assume it means one of the power converter switches at the rearmost end of the right hand vertical cockpit panel (buttons below circuit box). Didn't have a chance to try this either.

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Yeah don't use the emergency inverter mode. What this does is takes the #1 inverter offline and use the #2 inverter for #1's normal duties but reduced to bare minimum for successful emergency landing.

 

To get the sight working you want to get the engine running, then generators, then inverters and then sight switch and then normal lighting for the sight. Do not turn everything on first before flipping some master generator or inverter switch, you will break something in the electrical system.

 

Normally #1 inverter is on during engine start because that allows monitoring of engine oil pressure otherwise almost all electrical systems are off.

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Right, so I tried it again and it just worked first time, without me fiddling with inverters.

 

 

Thanks all for your input!

 

 

 

I think previously I was hasty and flicked the switches on the sight before the ASP power on the right panel, then when I flicked that it didn't work so maybe as you say I just broke it?

 

 

 

Having said that, the auto-start turns both inverters on and leaves them there, should I just leave it like that? When I turn Inverter 2 off manually the sight goes off!

 

 

Just to make sure we're talking about the same things, I'm referring to switches 42 and 43 from page 43 of the manual.

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Official bis manual procedure is to start with only #1 inverter (so oil pressure and fuel gauge function) but DCS procedure to run both #1 and #2 inverter is fine and will cause no issues.

 

Turning on lamp switches or changing option switches for sight before applying sight unit power will cause no issues. Make sure that inverters #1 and #2 and DA-200 and normal gyro systems are running well before turning on sight unit power however.

 

Of course turning off #2 inverter will disable sight and radar. Running only #1 inverter is only procedure during starting engine. Once engine has started the #2 inverter is brought online and process continues.

 

Best procedure with regards to electrical power and the optical sight from cold start that I know according to official documentation:

 

  1. Battery-External DC switch ON
  2. DC Generator switch ON
  3. No. 1 Inverter switch ON
  4. Service Tank switch ON
  5. Radio Set switch ON
  6. Throttle IDLE
  7. Ground Start Button PRESS
  8. Wait for engine start to complete
  9. AC Generator switch ON
  10. No. 2 Inverter switch ON
  11. No. 3, No. 1 fuel tank groups ON
  12. Gyroscopic systems (vertical, DA-200) switches ON
  13. FDS switch ON
  14. Optical Sight switch ON

In real airplane the sight may be checked with external AC/DC power, switches for external AC/DC, No. 2 inverter, and the gun sight switch only.

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