MadMaxNZ Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 I know the P has two K-13 Missiles on it and two cannons while the 19S has no missiles and three cannons, are there any other differences? Like in maneuverability/speed/armament?
Dehuman Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 S has no radar and therefore a simpler gunsight. Not sure which is heavier, radar or extra gun and ammo, lighter plane possibly has the edge in a turnfight
Zeus67 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 S has no radar and therefore a simpler gunsight. Not sure which is heavier, radar or extra gun and ammo, lighter plane possibly has the edge in a turnfight The S is heavier than the P. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
Alpenwolf Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 Does Razbam have any plans to make the S in the future? I know we are supposed to get a Vietnam War map eventually. YES! It'll be AI only upon release. But in time it will become available for us too. That was announced by RAZBAM themselves. HACA DYCA Discord Cold War 1947 - 1991 You can help me with keeping up the server via PayPal donations: hokumyounis@yahoo.com
Mortisrose Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 The MiG-19S has a more simple gunnery radar similar to the F-86 radar. S is somewhat better in speed, maneuverability, range, ceiling, endurance. i7 7700k, 32 GB RAM, GTX 1080, 500 GB NVMe m.2 SSD, Trackir 3 Pro, Gunfighter Mk I w/MCG; Mod. TM Cougar throttle and Mod. CH Pro Pedals w/Pro Micro + MMjoy2, Nostromo n52
Magot Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 Mig-19S was frontline fighter, had stronger cannon armament, 3 x 23mm and no has no intercept radar. It was simplified mig-19 with only cannons and unguided AG rockets. Mig-19P was interceptor with radar and guided AA rockets.
Mortisrose Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 Mig-19S was frontline fighter, had stronger cannon armament, 3 x 23mm and no has no intercept radar. It was simplified mig-19 with only cannons and unguided AG rockets. Mig-19P was interceptor with radar and guided AA rockets. The MiG-19S (Farmer C) had 3 x 30mm cannons, only the PM (Farmer E) had guided missiles, rockets on the P (Farmer B) were unguided. i7 7700k, 32 GB RAM, GTX 1080, 500 GB NVMe m.2 SSD, Trackir 3 Pro, Gunfighter Mk I w/MCG; Mod. TM Cougar throttle and Mod. CH Pro Pedals w/Pro Micro + MMjoy2, Nostromo n52
foxbat155 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Few rectifications, MiG-19S wasn't simplified variant, this aircraft was second in a row in family (after MiG-19 "without letter"). MiG-19P is a 19S development with radar. Interceptor variants are heavier like frontline variants - 7730 kg (max. weight P) vs 7560 kg ( max. weight S). Gunsight on the S is not simplified over P's gunsight, because both are the same gunsight ASP-5N, with precisely the same funcionality. Differences are in cannons and flight parameters, but those are relatively small, that's why aircrafts have one aerodynamics manual and one pilot's manual. Edited January 10, 2019 by foxbat155
Prowler111 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 YES! It'll be AI only upon release. But in time it will become available for us too. That was announced by RAZBAM themselves. Not sure if AI version will make the cut for release (but will be added as an upgrade) but S version will be included eventually in the package as a bonus, the main subject of the module is the P version
Alpenwolf Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 Not sure if AI version will make the cut for release (but will be added as an upgrade) but S version will be included eventually in the package as a bonus, the main subject of the module is the P version Well, the P is the main issue as you've said it yourself. One at a time :thumbup: HACA DYCA Discord Cold War 1947 - 1991 You can help me with keeping up the server via PayPal donations: hokumyounis@yahoo.com
Magot Posted January 11, 2019 Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) The MiG-19S (Farmer C) had 3 x 30mm cannons, only the PM (Farmer E) had guided missiles, rockets on the P (Farmer B) were unguided. Nope. Some P version had too guided AA rockets. Because soviet system (and not only soviet system but whole Warsaw pact) had disorder in markings what is P and the PM. Wikipedia its not complete source. Edited January 11, 2019 by Magot
streakeagle Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Not sure if AI version will make the cut for release (but will be added as an upgrade) but S version will be included eventually in the package as a bonus, the main subject of the module is the P version The cost of making DCS modules is so high in both time and money that I don't expect to see many variants of aircraft that have already been released. While the differences between minor variants are usually enough to justify separate products to cover development costs, most people aren't going to buy both variants. So, two for one is an amazing deal for full-blown DCS World modules. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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