is there any benefit to buying a trainer

[Varis]

Perhaps you also need it spelt out if it wasnt obvious (clearly for you it wasnt) all I way saying is that coin is a mission not an airframe. Hence you can still can fly whatever you like including conducting missions types like coin without buying armed trainers

 

Yes but that's only in singleplayer* - in multiplayer the mission creator will have limited the airframes. Shooting basically defenceless trucks with A-10 or F-16 may be a good idea when you're new to the aircraft but the fun wears out quick as you progress, so many mission creators scale the challenge according to which airframes are available in the mission, or vice versa.

 

*) Even with singleplayer you make the assumption a mission is available or can be created

[metzger]

I own all modules and L39 is one of the few I fly quite often more often than many real combat ones. In fact irl L39ZA saw more real combat than the Viggen.

 

It is really fun aircraft to fly and achieving success with it is really satisfactory. Aside the fun, becoming proficient with the low performance aircraft with no systems to help you, will surely improve your airmanship piloting skills or bombing accuracy.

 

Sure you don't necessarily have to use a trainer, go jump in the hornet and do your stuff but this doesn't mean the light attack or trainer is not a combat aircraft and it's not fun. Someone might actually simulate a combat training procedures utilizing the multicrew (sitting in the back with VR in a dogfight is quite immersive and fun).

 

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[Doum76]

Is there any benefit to buying the L-39 or the C-101 and if so which is the better of the two ?

 

Id also like to bring up the topic of a carrier capable trainer

 

 

I'd go with many said, it's DCS, your life doesn't depends on it nor the cost of your Airforce if you crash the bird. Just grab the modules you're interested in and learn it, your best trainer is, Youtube, with it's many tutorials and this forum. :) Anyways, back then i bought the Hawk and never flew it, and i never will since it's not supported anymore. :)

[Kev2go]

Yes but that's only in singleplayer* - in multiplayer the mission creator will have limited the airframes. Shooting basically defenceless trucks with A-10 or F-16 may be a good idea when you're new to the aircraft but the fun wears out quick as you progress, so many mission creators scale the challenge according to which airframes are available in the mission, or vice versa.

 

*) Even with singleplayer you make the assumption a mission is available or can be created

 

 

and many mission creators create realistic scenarios based on the actual aircraft that a respective nation uses. Who said Insurgents or militias have to use defenseless trucks? MANPADS and trucks with AAA are common enough, along with old T55 tanks being a reality in many places in the middle east among militias to be included in COIN scenarios.

 

 

what do think was one of the aircraft types runing COIN in syria from the USAF? A10's.

 

Even looking at low cost Light attack Trainers, current ones designed today have modern avionics. Take the A29 Super tucano that Razbam is developing. SUre its Turboprop not a jet, and its not going to hold as many stores as a A10 or have the redundancy or take as much punishment but actually look at its capabilities. IT has a modern avionics: a Glass cockpit , GPS aided navigation, and can utilize precision guided munitions which it can self target with a EO/IR sensor . Even for unguided munitions it has CCIP/CCRP computed modes ITS a "COIN/ Light attack" aircraft. Only reason L39ZA or C101 are analog and simple is is because they a model representative of capabilities of thier original armed trainer production variations from the cold war. ( circa 1970s-1980s)

 

Now also depending on what one wants to fly that is also the sort of "trainer" that will suit those people wanting to get into modern jets, as it closer representative of the sort of avionics current trainers within the 21st century should have.

Edited February 3, 2019 by Kev2go

[captflyby]

Is there any benefit to buying the L-39 or the C-101 and if so which is the better of the two ?

Id also like to bring up the topic of a carrier capable trainer

 

 

The choice of aircraft is subjective. Only you can decide which one you prefer, and only by flying them will you decide. I bought several before deciding upon the Hornet.

 

It's not so much the plane you choose, but the instructor you choose.

 

YouTube has many good instructional videos done by competent people.

 

But, videos don't let you ask questions that will inevitably arise.

 

Find a "person" with a good working knowledge of the plane you choose to fly to instruct you. Supplement that with videos.

 

A flying squadron, with a good training program, is a great place to start - but they have to be flying / training with the plane you have chosen.

Edited February 4, 2019 by captflyby

[Zius]

Is there any benefit to buying the L-39 or the C-101

Yes. Both of them are great fun to fly, more combat capable than people give them credit for, and both of them will teach you more about flying and fighting than a FBW aircraft with all possible electronic aids.

 

 

 

and if so which is the better of the two ?

The L-39 has Russian avionics, the C-101 has NATO. That's the biggest difference.

They also have slightly different design priorities.

 

Probably the L-39 is the more polished module, because it's by ED and because it has been around longer.

But the main difference is east/west avionics.

 

 

Id also like to bring up the topic of a carrier capable trainer

I didn't try yet, but I'm pretty sure you can land a Yak-52 on a carrier...