Jester and waypoints

[exile2256]

Can i get jester to select waypoints above the displayed 3? I’m playing a mission woth several waypoints, I can’t select the next waypoint (4) or the surface target waypoint (5) using the jester menu.

[Shimmergloom667]

That's because you can't set more than 3 Waypoints for the Tomcat to show in Mission Editor - it literally can only display 3 Waypoints.

 

If you want the specific ST, IP, EP etc. points, you have to set them up seperately in Mission Editor. Please refer to the "DCS specific functions" section in the manual for that:

 

http://www.heatblur.se/F-14Manual/dcs.html#f-14-waypoints-in-the-mission-editor

Edited March 19, 2019 by Shimmergloom667

[exile2256]

That's because you can't set more than 3 Waypoints for the Tomcat to show in Mission Editor - it literally can only display 3 Waypoints.

 

If you want the specific ST, IP, EP etc. points, you have to set them up seperately in Mission Editor. Please refer to the "DCS specific functions" section in the manual for that:

 

http://www.heatblur.se/F-14Manual/dcs.html#f-14-waypoints-in-the-mission-editor

 

The mission I refer to is actually the first mission - created by HB - Bombing the Iranian reactor. I do remember reading something about the three waypoints limitation. The surface target is not listed, and when I select the term “surface target” jester just says wilco and ignores me. I left it for some time in case he was entering something, I couldn’t hear his usual clicking or anything.

Edited March 19, 2019 by exile2256

[Victory205]

That's because you can't set more than 3 Waypoints for the Tomcat to show in Mission Editor - it literally can only display 3 Waypoints.

 

If you want the specific ST, IP, EP etc. points, you have to set them up seperately in Mission Editor. Please refer to the "DCS specific functions" section in the manual for that:

 

http://www.heatblur.se/F-14Manual/dcs.html#f-14-waypoints-in-the-mission-editor

 

Yep, RIOS were busy on low levels, changing the waypoints. I was a TARPS guy also, and we did our LL with a strip chart that we made by hand, and flew time, distance and groundspeed. It's hilarious to see the Hornet guys complaining about reality. It's just the way it was. Progress is a good thing, and the F35 guys have it made compared to everything else out there. They think that the F18 is prehistoric.

 

I'd have given anything for a hand held GPS. I'd have carried at least three of them!

 

We knew that on release, that guys would be howling about "bugs" that were actually features in the "Realjet ™". ;)

 

 

The Heatblur team are geniuses, and they were and are fighting to mimic the actual aircraft, including its design deficiencies.

[Shimmergloom667]

The mission I refer to is actually the first mission - created by HB - Bombing the Iranian reactor. I do remember reading something about the three waypoints limitation. The surface target is not listed, and when I select the term “surface target” jester just says wilco and ignores me. I left it for some time in case he was entering something, I couldn’t hear his usual clicking or anything.

 

Well, look it up in the Mission Editor and see if you see IP and ST set up for the Tomcat flight (still in the office, gonna take a look later on, too). If they are defined, Jester should be able to select it and otherwise that may be a genuine bug.

 

If they are not defined, then maybe it was an oversight and the mission itself needs a fixer-upper.

[rrohde]

We knew that on release, that guys would be howling about "bugs" that were actually features in the "Realjet ™". ;)

 

The Heatblur team are geniuses, and they were and are fighting to mimic the actual aircraft, including its design deficiencies.

 

Well said! I think it's difficult for some to accept things at face value and "how they really were". Most of us, though - I am sure, appreciate HB's (with the the help of SMEs) quality approach to making the F-14 a reality in DCS.

[exile2256]

Well, look it up in the Mission Editor and see if you see IP and ST set up for the Tomcat flight (still in the office, gonna take a look later on, too). If they are defined, Jester should be able to select it and otherwise that may be a genuine bug.

 

If they are not defined, then maybe it was an oversight and the mission itself needs a fixer-upper.

 

 

Nice idea. I didn’t even think of that as a possibility, of course the nature of dcs makes these options available. Cheers.

[Shimmergloom667]

Nice idea. I didn’t even think of that as a possibility, of course the nature of dcs makes these options available. Cheers.

 

Good luck with that, I really kinda love all these limitations... constantly working on nice missions in my mind, too... if I find some time to build missions and actually go fly that sexy beast :D

[exile2256]

Good luck with that, I really kinda love all these limitations... constantly working on nice missions in my mind, too... if I find some time to build missions and actually go fly that sexy beast :D

 

The cats certainly got character.

[OnlyforDCS]

 

We knew that on release, that guys would be howling about "bugs" that were actually features in the "Realjet ™". ;)

 

 

 

With all due respect in this particular case it is very likely a bug, or the mission designer did not set up the IP and TP, which amounts to the same thing.

 

The briefing makes no mention of setting up your own IP and TP, so I kind of wasted an hour of my time flying the first three waypoints only to discover that the mission was broken.

[Shimmergloom667]

With all due respect in this particular case it is very likely a bug, or the mission designer did not set up the IP and TP, which amounts to the same thing.

 

The briefing makes no mention of setting up your own IP and TP, so I kind of wasted an hour of my time flying the first three waypoints only to discover that the mission was broken.

 

It's almost as if this was early access ;)

 

(no seriously, you're right of course - gonna take a look at the mission once I get home, perhaps it IS a genuine bug and needs addressing, or the mission needs fixing. Both stuff to report to HB :) )

[exile2256]

With all due respect in this particular case it is very likely a bug, or the mission designer did not set up the IP and TP, which amounts to the same thing.

 

The briefing makes no mention of setting up your own IP and TP, so I kind of wasted an hour of my time flying the first three waypoints only to discover that the mission was broken.

 

I’m very new to dcs, so I automatically assume it’s something I’m doing wrong, so I can’t confirm if it’s me or the mission unfortunately. Hopefully one of you more experienced guys can confirm it for me later. I’ll drop in a bug report later, if that is the case.

[DarkStar79]

I think its a bug also that sometimes Jester doesnt change wp. I often have to order him several times for him to change waypont..

[Shimmergloom667]

So, I don't own the PG map yet, so I couldn't check on the Iranian Reactor Strike mission, but the Caucasus "Trench Run Reactor Strike" mission has 3 waypoints set, yet NO Tomcat-specific IP or ST waypoints.

 

It is thusly no bug, but a Mission that needs to be overworked with these specifics in mind. See screenshot.

 

I highly to suspect that to be the case in the Iranian Mission, too. Either you enter IP, ST and EP through mark labels via Jester, enter them manually with coordinates or modify the mission.

 

Maybe HB needs to modify the mission too, for the release version.

[key_stroked]

As others said the mission is bugged, but you can set your own IP and target waypoints using the F10 map and importing it into the INS using Jester.

 

You can do this while on the boat after the INS is aligned. Takes just a minute or two.

[Shimmergloom667]

Yeah I know you can do that ingame, I prefer to preload IP etc. through the Mission Editor, though, and I THINK that was what HB was intending to do with it. That's what the Tomcat specific waypoint tab is for, after all :)

 

So I think they should overwork the missions during early access.