AUTO / CCIP automatic switching

[shagrat]

In the picture from toilet2000's post you can see the dashed cross above the -20 degree lines, ready to "designate" the factory...

[Lindamus]

Well,

 

Anyway, I do certainly hope that this is implemented.

 

This is a detailed simulation module after all.

 

Thanks.

[shagrat]

It isn't yet. Still early access...

Well,

 

Anyway, I do certainly hope that this is implemented.

 

This is a detailed simulation module after all.

 

Thanks.

[al531246]

...if you could see the target and the CCIP cross at the same time to do that, you could simply use CCIP to pickle the bomb onto the target. In fact, you would have no other option, because operating the pickle would drop the bomb immediately, and not provide the opportunity to use CCIP-to-Auto.

 

Now, I won't discount that there's maybe something I'm missing. Wouldn't be the first time, and I'd gladly hear what, because I'm always glad to learn something new.

 

Hi Captain Orso,

 

The original thread OP is referring to was posted by me. I'm very familiar with how the CCIP system works in the Harrier II. I've reviewed numerous hours of HUD footage as well as communicating with AV-8B pilots to confirm my hypothesis. I can say with absolute certainty, absolute certainty, this is how the system operates. Anyhow let's jump straight in. Here's a quick graphic I've thrown together;

 

Scene 1 is the aircraft in CCIP mode with the dashed cross sitting atop the tank, the actual cross is outside of the HUD's FOV as represented by the red rectangle. You'll also notice the reflected cue is about halfway up the fall line. The length from the reflected cue to the dashed cross = the distance from the dashed cross to the actual cross. That's the purpose of the reflected cue.

 

With the aircraft in AG MODE, CCIP mode selected and the dashed cross on the tank the pilot holds down the WEAPON RELEASE button on his stick. It is held down until the bomb leaves the aircraft or the attack is aborted. Holding it down coverts the aircraft into AUTO mode (or CCRP as it's traditionally known). The symbology changes to reflect that, the line becomes an ASL and is solid.

 

Scene 2 is the aircraft in AUTO mode with the AUTO mode symbology on the HUD. You can see the release cue has risen to the VV (Velocity Vector) and as such the bomb has been released. In this particular example the tank is within the HUD FOV but that doesn't always need to be the case. If the tank was outside of the HUD FOV the ASL would simply extend beyond the bottom of the HUD FOV.

 

Finally CCIP-to-AUTO is not a mode. It's a conversion the computer performs. You command the conversion. As someone else suggested it's very similar to the A-10C's "consent to release" mode. The Su-25T also has a similar system, a video here, skip to 1:37;

Edited April 9, 2019 by al531246

[Fri13]

TL;DR: CCIP cross is always shown on HUD. When CIP solution is outside of HUD FOV, the cross becomes dashed and stays at the bottom. Holding down Weapon Release designates the target under the dashed cross for an AUTO release, as long as you continue to hold down the Weapon Release.

 

That clearler it can't easily be written!

Always see the cross, and the cross type (solid or dashed) informs what mode you have.

 

So a that one needs to do, is to get the cross on the target no matter what it is and fly straight until releasing bombs