electricaltill Posted April 27, 2019 Posted April 27, 2019 While trying to set up a decent throttle curve I noticed that afterburner graphics and sound effects do not kick in until the throttle passes the MAX marker on the TQ. My understanding of the manual and NATOPS is that everything above MIL is afterburner. Are the lower afterburner zones not visible/audible, is the afterburner engaging at the wrong time, or is there a problem with the TQ? Also the FF gauge does not seem to be reading correctly. According to paragraph 2.11.3 in NATOPS, on deck the FF in MIL should be around 10k (in context I read that as per-engine FF, not total), but the FF gauge at MIL only shows 5-6k. The FF gauge also rises if the throttle is increased above MIL, but the gauge is not supposed to indicate afterburner fuel flow. Surely when above MIL the only change to fuel flow is whatever is going to the afterburner. Is this something to do with it having the FF gauge for the TF30 engines?
FoxTwo Posted April 27, 2019 Posted April 27, 2019 I believe I read that they've modeled the F-14A/PW TF30 engine panel in our Bs with GE F110s, so things with that particular instrument are not correct at present. It's supposed to be fixed.
electricaltill Posted April 28, 2019 Author Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) I believe I read that they've modeled the F-14A/PW TF30 engine panel in our Bs with GE F110s, so things with that particular instrument are not correct at present. It's supposed to be fixed.They definitely have, it says so in the manual. But I don't know if it's relevant to the issue I'm describing, and it doesn't answer whether the afterburner is engaging at the right time. Edited April 28, 2019 by electricaltill
FoxTwo Posted April 29, 2019 Posted April 29, 2019 They definitely have, it says so in the manual. But I don't know if it's relevant to the issue I'm describing, and it doesn't answer whether the afterburner is engaging at the right time. Completely misread, you're talking about the actual throttle. You're right, going to full mil power puts you in what looks like the AB range marks on the throttle, and that doesn't seem right.
electricaltill Posted April 30, 2019 Author Posted April 30, 2019 I'm glad it isn't just me. Can a passing admin move this to the bug forum please?
sLYFa Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 everything above MIL is afterburner correct afterburner graphics and sound effects do not kick in until the throttle passes the MAX marker on the TQ Never looked at the ingame TQ markings, but if it's true what you are saying this is definetly not correct. The throttles shouldn't pass the MAX marker at all. You can determine whether you are in AB or not by the nozzle position gauge. Anywhere in the non AB region, the nozzles will be fully closed (except with WonW). When entering the AB region, the nozzles will begin to open, reaching 70% at max AB. surely when above MIL the only change to fuel flow is whatever is going to the afterburner I'm not so sure about that. AB creates a lot of additional pressure that propagates forward through the engine and into the compressor stages. Some modifications to core engine rpm/fuel flow may therefore be necessary. But I wouldn't expect a huge increase in FF. i5-8600k @4.9Ghz, 2080ti , 32GB@2666Mhz, 512GB SSD
electricaltill Posted April 30, 2019 Author Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) Never looked at the ingame TQ markings, but if it's true what you are saying this is definetly not correct. The throttles shouldn't pass the MAX marker at all. You can determine whether you are in AB or not by the nozzle position gauge. Anywhere in the non AB region, the nozzles will be fully closed (except with WonW). When entering the AB region, the nozzles will begin to open, reaching 70% at max AB. Good thought. Yep, that doesn't happen until the throttle is at max. When I said 'passes the max marker' before I meant that the rear edge of the throttle lever is level with the max marker. Which is where it has to be before you get any AB effects - sound, visible kick, graphical effect and nozzles opening. Edited April 30, 2019 by electricaltill
Eldur Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 I've yet to see the FF go up past mil. Seems right for me. But I don't reference the paintings on the quadrant at all, instead I tell by the nozzle indicators and the detent clicking audio.
electricaltill Posted May 1, 2019 Author Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) I've yet to see the FF go up past mil. It isn't supposed to - the FF gauge does not indicate AB fuel flow. My point is that when you're at the MIL marking on the TQ, FF is a long way short of what it should be at military power. You also don't get the detent clicking sound and nozzle opening until you're at the MAX marker on the TQ, which doesn't seem right either. Edited May 1, 2019 by electricaltill
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