Ever going to see the complete set of training missions

[imacken]

For people new to a module, these training missions are - in my opinion - invaluable, supplemented with YT videos and manuals.

The Viggen seems to have been stuck with the same very sparse set of TMs for a long time now, which is a shame for those coming fresh to the module.

Will we ever see the promised missing ones, e.g. air-to-air guns, RB24/74, RB75 (Maverick) etc.?

[Rudel_chw]

While you wait for Heatblur's missions, you may want to try these practice missions, edited by @Corvinus:

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=222539

 

To use them, you first have to read the corresponding part of the Viggen's manual, and then fire up the mission and practice that part, I learned a lot that way.

[imacken]

Thanks Rudel, I wasn't asking for myself, but for people new to the module. I've been using the Viggen for quite a long time now.

It seems that HB have completely stalled on this aspect.

[Rudel_chw]

... It seems that HB have completely stalled on this aspect.

 

I agree that having more training missions is better, but I imagine that the developers must balance features vs costs and the Viggen isnt really far from most other DCS aircrafts on the training aspect.

 

The Viggen comes with 10 training missions; the same as the MiG-19, Mirage 2000 and Gazelle (tough the Mirage has each mission on two versions: Caucasus & Nevada). The F-86 has 9, the L39 has 8, Blackshark has 7, the MiG-15 has 5, the C101, UH-1 and the Mi-8 have only 4 each!

 

Only the A-10C, MiG-21, Harrier, Tomcat and F-14 have more training missions than the Viggen, and kudos to them for that ... it would be lovely if every aircraft had the same standard, but I do realize that it surely increases the development costs, and my personal preference would be to dedicate that effort towards the built-in Campaign of each module, as some of them are severely lacking on this aspect.

 

To me, it seems that the much criticized Razbam developer, is the one that dedicates the most effort to both training and buil-in campaign, contracting their development with one of the best mission designers and it really shows ... the Harrier has hands down the best training I've seen, and the Mirage has the training and built-in campaign flow neatly into one another.

 

Next week the MiG-19 built in Campaign should arrive and I can hardly wait :)

Cheers

[imacken]

Although I agree with a lot you say, it's not about quantity, it's about coverage.

Some planes don't need much. For example the prop planes don't really need any more than startup, take off, landing and guns.

The basic requirement should be start up, take off, navigation, landing and weapon systems. other more complex modules should add radar, counter measures, etc.

The Viggen is way off the basic requirements, and I'm afraid the old expression '2 wrongs don't make a right' comes to mind as well. It's not relevant that there may be worse examples out there.

In terms of development costs, the training missions are part of the spec from the outset, and should have been budgeted for. Don't take valuable time away from developing module features, just employ a 3rd party to do the TMs.

[sc_neo]

Agree with the general sentiment here, there should definetely more missions covering the weapons and systems of this lovely bird. And as stated above, it's not about quantity, but coverage, that statement rings very true with me.