R-27ER question

[GGTharos]

I really don’t understand how come you can keep telling the R-27 is not in Russian inventory.

 

I wasn't the one who said it.

 

So saw you last time in Aim-54 thread telling is nothing imposible for such a great missile...

 

Prove it, show where I said those words.

[GGTharos]

Is that not a radome cover?

 

Pay attention to the color of the head P-27. The R-27P has a bright yellow head.

[Flаnker]

Is that not a radome cover?

 

Not. This is not a protective cap. The protective cap is always red.

 

[GGTharos]

And conical instead of ogive - ok, fair enough.

[Flаnker]

The head of the P-27P is colored bright yellow so that it can be visually distinguished from the P-27R.

[BlackPixxel]

Even the MiG-29 manual has reference to the R-27EP.

 

For example it says that the missile can even be used in Fi0-mode similar to a heatseeking missile. The tone will be played when the missile seeker has found a target. It also says that the radar complex has to be turned off in Fi0 mode to avoid detection of the planes own radiation.

[GGTharos]

Yes, but until now there was no evidence of the missile being in inventory. Also, while there have been lengthier descriptions written for tactics used with the 27R/T, there were no such descriptions for the 27P.

 

Of course, that only raises a bit of suspicion - for western fighters some weapon use is in manuals that you can't have access too ... though this is unusual in that if you find one weapon being described in a particular way, you'll usually find all the others, too.

[Flаnker]

Yes, but until now there was no evidence of the missile being in inventory. Also, while there have been lengthier descriptions written for tactics used with the 27R/T, there were no such descriptions for the 27P.

 

Of course, that only raises a bit of suspicion - for western fighters some weapon use is in manuals that you can't have access too ... though this is unusual in that if you find one weapon being described in a particular way, you'll usually find all the others, too.

 

Manuals of aircraft that can use the R-27P -secret are not in the public domain. There is some information about this missile.

[GGTharos]

That's fine. As far as DCS is concerned it would be on late model Su-27/30/34. But on the on the player Su-27.

[Flаnker]

That's fine. As far as DCS is concerned it would be on late model Su-27/30/34. But on the on the player Su-27.

 

R-27P can use Su-33

[pepin1234]

That's fine. As far as DCS is concerned it would be on late model Su-27/30/34. But on the on the player Su-27.

 

Cuba, East Germany, Hungary etc. have R-27R in inventory. These missiles was exported from Soviet Union. then what is your proof to tell R-27 is not in Russia inventory.

 

You will not find any information about what version or improved version is in inventory. they seem not to name specific improved series.

[AeriaGloria]

He is talking about this thread, as said info is from Chizh

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=229050&page=26

[pepin1234]

According to Chizh the Russian pilots haven't seen any of them in inventory.

 

Because they will not see any remarcable mark that tell is the improved R-27.

[GGTharos]

Do you guys even read? This was about the 27P.

[AeriaGloria]

Sorry, post 232 in the thread I linked Chizh answers your question about use of the EP

 

No. We have not found any evidence of the use of this missile.

 

I thought that was the confirmation by Chizh you were referring to

Edited July 31, 2019 by AeriaGloria

[GGTharos]

Ah yes, correct. Thank You.