M200c, NVG and Visor

[RedSky]

Honestly I wouldn't want people to fly on NVG's without extensive training. There are all sorts of visual and spatial perception problems with NODS as well as lots of Do's and Don'ts. Its not like flying in DCS. Even teaching people how to drive at night with nods properly takes some time and practice.

 

Agreed. It can be a powerful tool, but the learning curve is really felt even in DCS, and I know enough from that to know it would take a lot of work to be proficient in the real airplane with them. It's a neat idea, but FLIR and synthetic vision displays are far better tools for most non-military aviation.

[cauldron]

Is it just me or does the in cockpit NVG of the M2000c have horrendous depth of field issues? The cockpit is utterly out of focus. I can't find any commands for depth of field/focus or anything. its hard to imagine actual NVG's to be this bad. I have worn a pair recently and it is totally amazing the sharpness and clarity, both near and far, i can see my hand perfectly as well as the stars, and everything in between. So what am i doing wrong? something in my settings?

[jojo]

Is it just me or does the in cockpit NVG of the M2000c have horrendous depth of field issues? The cockpit is utterly out of focus. I can't find any commands for depth of field/focus or anything. its hard to imagine actual NVG's to be this bad. I have worn a pair recently and it is totally amazing the sharpness and clarity, both near and far, i can see my hand perfectly as well as the stars, and everything in between. So what am i doing wrong? something in my settings?

 

This isn’t just M-2000C, it’s DCS World NVG simulation.

But AFAIK, standard practice is to focus NVG to view distant objects, and look below NVG to read instruments and look in the cockpit.

 

But on Rift S the NVG are full screen, so it would be rather turn on/ off.

[Harlikwin]

Is it just me or does the in cockpit NVG of the M2000c have horrendous depth of field issues? The cockpit is utterly out of focus. I can't find any commands for depth of field/focus or anything. its hard to imagine actual NVG's to be this bad. I have worn a pair recently and it is totally amazing the sharpness and clarity, both near and far, i can see my hand perfectly as well as the stars, and everything in between. So what am i doing wrong? something in my settings?

 

As Jojo said...

 

NVGs normally have depth of field issues, and the avs-9 in particular. For flight use they are used focused at infinity to only look out of the cockpit. In cockpit you glance under them.

 

Which specific NV device are you using? And is it at the infinity stop? Because you will have issues focusing on anything a few feet away if this is the case. But most people set the far focus not at inifity (for example across the room) and in those cases the near focus is better. It also varies some with lens design.

[cauldron]

Well it was moonless night i could see perfectly in focus and sharp: my hands, feet, the farm and crops, and the stars were perfect dots among the little nvg flashing specks. Didn't have to adjust a thing. These were good commercial NVG's. I didn't own them just got to use them... literally a thousand times better than what i saw in my dcs flight.

 

But ok... so you guys are sure its working as intended, ok then. But if that is the case they are simulating some seriously underwhelming nvg's. Maybe the ones i used were very goods ones and older ones are really kinda crap in comparison.

Edited August 27, 2019 by cauldron

[Harlikwin]

What model NVG's are you using.

 

And yes, tubes have gotten better over the years in terms of resolution and better at dealing with high light.

 

Try the dollar bill test, set your NVG to infinity focus, hold up a dollar bill and try to read the text 1ft away, Bet it looks blurry, or try to read a book.

 

DCS just puts a blur filter in for the cockpit lights or something like that. Its not exactly realistic but it sorta gets the big picture across. They also don't really model point sources of light blinding you and that sort of thing either, or that stuff looks different under NVG's or the fact there are different "light" levels of illumination and a ton of other things that effect NVG performance at night.

 

Also there ways to increase depth of field at the expense of light gathering. I bet the depth of field is great with your NVG with the dayligt cap/cover on.

Edited August 28, 2019 by Harlikwin