BonerCat Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 The MiG-29's have the same little screen that the Su-27 and 33 have, and yet it's only used as a hud double, which is quite frankly quite useless. It's hard to imagine it'd be there for only that reason. Is this intentional? Am i missing something? Does the MiG-29 just not have datalink? It seems like a major oversight, and something that would be installed with later variants. What's going on here? The datalink would make this bird much better at what it's suppouse to do, and it feels a bit handicapped without it. Modules: F-14, F-15C, F-16C, F/A-18C, M-2000C, A-10C, A-10C II, AV-8B N/A, MiG-29, Su-33, MiG-21 Bis, F-5E, P-51D, Ka-50, Mi-8, Sa 342, UH-1H, Combined Arms Maps and others: Persian Gulf, Syria, Normandy, WWII Assets, NS 430 + Mi-8 NS 430
Kappi Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 Unfortunately it is like that in RL. The three versions we have in DCS only have the HUD duplicated on the HDD. For situational awareness you need an AWACS. ___________________________________________ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Looking forward to it, Belsimtek!:thumbup:
mvsgas Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) This is an old conversation https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=7837 https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=39372 https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=148144 Edited January 5, 2020 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
BonerCat Posted January 5, 2020 Author Posted January 5, 2020 Ok. Thanks and sorry for bringing it up again. I didn't find the linked posts. Modules: F-14, F-15C, F-16C, F/A-18C, M-2000C, A-10C, A-10C II, AV-8B N/A, MiG-29, Su-33, MiG-21 Bis, F-5E, P-51D, Ka-50, Mi-8, Sa 342, UH-1H, Combined Arms Maps and others: Persian Gulf, Syria, Normandy, WWII Assets, NS 430 + Mi-8 NS 430
Kazansky222 Posted April 27, 2020 Posted April 27, 2020 Well I remember ED saying something about IADS a long time ago, since lazur was part of the IADS system maybe it will come with that rework... but its been quite sometime and no news on that front so, chalk it up to, I wish this would happen, should happen, won't happen. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22
Seaeagle Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 The MiG-29's have the same little screen that the Su-27 and 33 have, and yet it's only used as a hud double, which is quite frankly quite useless. It's hard to imagine it'd be there for only that reason. Is this intentional? Am i missing something? Does the MiG-29 just not have datalink? The MiG-29 does have a datalink, but its a one-way system for GCI control only with transmitted target data being displayed on the HUD. There is no "peer-to-peer" connectivity and no display of the tactical situation on the HDD like in the Su-27/33. It seems like a major oversight, and something that would be installed with later variants. Later multirole variants of the MiG-29 have completely different system's complex including full datalink capability and two HDDs. What's going on here? The datalink would make this bird much better at what it's suppouse to do, and it feels a bit handicapped without it. What is going on, is that the MiG-29 lacks the GCI system of the real aircraft, but the HDD functionality is represented correctly.
BlackPixxel Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 What is going on, is that the MiG-29 lacks the GCI system of the real aircraft, but the HDD functionality is represented correctly. Not having a datalink does not directly mean that there is no tactical view (topdown view) as in the Flanker. The switch is there, above the HDD (TAKT.). I wonder if it should still display a top down view with the targets from SNP or STT when the tactical view switch is used. At least for MiG-29S.
Seaeagle Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 Not having a datalink does not directly mean that there is no tactical view (topdown view) as in the Flanker. It does have a datalink - you could not transfer data directly from a GCI station to the HUD of the aircraft without one. But no - a tactical display is not necessarily dependant on the presence of full datalink capability.....the MiG-29 just doesn't haven one. The switch is there, above the HDD (TAKT.). Yes but not functional on the MiG-29. I wonder if it should still display a top down view with the targets from SNP or STT when the tactical view switch is used. At least for MiG-29S. It should not.
BlackPixxel Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 Unfortunate, the tactical view would really help. Where do you know from that it is not functional for non export MiG-29?
Seaeagle Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) Unfortunate, the tactical view would really help. Where do you know from that it is not functional for non export MiG-29? From people "in the know" :) . I wondered about this myself, since the export versions I have seen didn't have the "TAKT" switch on the IPV at all. Edited April 28, 2020 by Seaeagle
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