Need more improvement for throttle control

[flankerjun]

I use TM throttle for hornet，it is perfect for A10C control，but for hornet，it needs more multiple position button options,the TM throttle can control Hornet Flaps with a 3-positon button,but for the landing gear, i need 2 buttons,one for down,the other for up,Why not we can control with one two-positon button,push up,landing gear up,push down,the landing gear up,this would be much better.

 

the master arm,speed brake,hook,landing gear,lights control,refuelling probe，etc...

all these fuctions needs improvement

[Bobik2002]

You can do that with t.a.r.g.e.t software. I done that and works perfectly.

 

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[Gruman]

TARGET or any other Joystick Mapper could do this, but the fewer Apps running, the better.

I guess you are familiar with the "Special for Joystick" Tab. I know, not all functions are mapped there, but those could be looked at if you like to change the control .lua yourself.

 

I agree, all those functions should be accessible without the need to mod the controls or usage of any Joystick Mapper (Target, Joy2Key, etc).

 

Instead of even more bindable function, each function should have more settings.

Let us define On - Off State, Toggle and timed functions.

[LeCuvier]

16 additions to "default.lua"

 

I have made 16 additions so far to the file "default.lua". The 2-position switch for Gear UP/DOWN is the 3rd one in the list:

{down = SMS_commands.MasterArmSw, up = SMS_commands.MasterArmSw, cockpit_device_id = devices.SMS, value_down =  1.0, value_up = 0.0, name = _('Master Arm Switch 2-Pos ARM/SAFE'), category = {_('Instrument Panel'), _('Master Arm Panel')}},
{down = hotas_commands.THROTTLE_EXTERIOR_LIGTHS, up = hotas_commands.THROTTLE_EXTERIOR_LIGTHS,    cockpit_device_id = devices.HOTAS,    value_down =  1.0, value_up = 0.0,    name = _('Exterior Lights 2-Pos ONOFF'), category = {_('Throttle Grip'), _('HOTAS')}},
{down = iCommandPlaneGearUp, up = iCommandPlaneGearDown, name = _('Landing Gear Control Handle 2-Pos UP/DOWN'),    category = {_('Left Vertical Panel')}},
{down = gear_commands.HookHandle, up = gear_commands.HookHandle, cockpit_device_id = devices.GEAR_INTERFACE, value_down =  1.0, value_up =  0.0, name = _('Arresting Hook Handle 2-Pos UP/DOWN'), category = {_('Right Vertical Panel')}},
{down = HUD_commands.HUD_AltitudeSw, up = HUD_commands.HUD_AltitudeSw, cockpit_device_id = devices.HUD,    value_down =  1.0, value_up =  0.0, name = _('Altitude Switch 2-Pos BARO/RADAR'), category = {_('Instrument Panel'), _('HUD Control Panel')}},
{down = cpt_commands.CanopySwitchClose, up = cpt_commands.CanopySwitchOpen, cockpit_device_id = devices.CPT_MECHANICS, value_down =  -1.0, value_up = 1.0, name = _('Canopy Control Switch 2-Pos OPEN/CLOSE'), category = {_('Right Wall'), _('Systems')}},
{down = oxygen_commands.OBOGS_ControlSw, up = oxygen_commands.OBOGS_ControlSw, cockpit_device_id = devices.OXYGEN_INTERFACE, value_down =  1.0,    value_up = 0.0,    name = _('OBOGS Control Switch 2-Pos ON/OFF'), category = {_('Left Console')}},
{down = cptlights_commands.HookBypass, up = cptlights_commands.HookBypass,    cockpit_device_id = devices.CPT_LIGTHS,    value_down =  -1.0,    value_up = 1.0,    name = _('Hook Bypass 2-Pos Switch FIELD/CARRIER'), category = {_('Left Vertical Panel')}},
{down = gear_commands.LaunchBarSw, up = gear_commands.LaunchBarSw, cockpit_device_id = devices.GEAR_INTERFACE, value_down =  -1.0, value_up = 1.0,    name = _('Launch Bar Control 2-Pos Switch RETRACT/EXTEND'), category = {_('Left Vertical Panel')}},
{down = extlights_commands.LdgTaxi,    up = extlights_commands.LdgTaxi, cockpit_device_id = devices.EXT_LIGHTS, value_down =  1.0,    value_up =  0.0, name = _('LDG/TAXI LIGHT Switch 2-Pos ON/OFF'), category = {_('Left Vertical Panel')}},
{down = ctrl_commands.WingFoldPull, pressed  = ctrl_commands.WingFoldSelect, cockpit_device_id = devices.CONTROL_INTERFACE, value_down = 1.0, value_pressed = -1.0, name = _('Wing Fold Control PULL-FOLD'), category = {_('Right Vertical Panel')}},
{down = ctrl_commands.WingFoldSelect, up  = ctrl_commands.WingFoldPull, cockpit_device_id = devices.CONTROL_INTERFACE, value_down = 1.0, value_up = 0.0, name = _('Wing Fold Control SPREAD-STOW'), category = {_('Right Vertical Panel')}},
{down = fuel_commands.DumpSw, up = fuel_commands.DumpSw, cockpit_device_id = devices.FUEL_INTERFACE, value_down =  1.0, value_up = -1.0, name = _('Fuel Dump Switch 2-Pos ON/OFF'), category = {_('Left Console'), _('Fuel Control Panel')}},
{down = 3256, up = 3256, cockpit_device_id = 0,    value_down =  -1.0,    value_up =  0.0, name = _('Flashlight 2-Pos ON/OFF'), category = {_('View Cockpit'), _('Right Console')}},
{down = iCommandPlaneShowKneeboard,    up = iCommandPlaneShowKneeboard, value_down = 1.0, value_up = -1.0,    name = _('Kneeboard 2-Pos SHOW/HIDE'), category = _('Kneeboard')},
{down=gear_commands.EmergParkHandleSelectPark, up=gear_commands.EmergParkHandleOnOff,cockpit_device_id=devices.GEAR_INTERFACE,value_down=1.0,value_up=-1.0,name=_('Emergency/Parking Brake Handle - CCW+Pull'),category=_('[13] Front Left - Vertical Panel')},

I could have achieved the same result with TARGET if all my game controllers were from Thrustmaster. But my Button Box is from DSD and my Joystick is from VIRPIL. So, TARGET is useless for me.

Caution though: the 2-position commands work with 2-position switches which stay in the ON or in the OFF position; not with spring-loaded pushbuttons.

Edited January 7, 2020 by LeCuvier

[LeCuvier]

...speed brake...

all these fuctions needs improvement

Why would the speed brake need improvement? Bindings are perfect for the speed brake switch on the WH throttle. Bind "Speed Bbrake Switch - EXTEND" to switch aft (JOY_BTN8) and "Speed Brake Switch - RETRACT/OFF" to switch forward (JOY_BTN7).

[Talvid]

On 1/7/2020 at 2:16 AM, LeCuvier said:

16 additions to "default.lua"

 

I have made 16 additions so far to the file "default.lua". The 2-position switch for Gear UP/DOWN is the 3rd one in the list:

{down = SMS_commands.MasterArmSw, up = SMS_commands.MasterArmSw, cockpit_device_id = devices.SMS, value_down =  1.0, value_up = 0.0, name = _('Master Arm Switch 2-Pos ARM/SAFE'), category = {_('Instrument Panel'), _('Master Arm Panel')}},
{down = hotas_commands.THROTTLE_EXTERIOR_LIGTHS, up = hotas_commands.THROTTLE_EXTERIOR_LIGTHS,    cockpit_device_id = devices.HOTAS,    value_down =  1.0, value_up = 0.0,    name = _('Exterior Lights 2-Pos ONOFF'), category = {_('Throttle Grip'), _('HOTAS')}},
{down = iCommandPlaneGearUp, up = iCommandPlaneGearDown, name = _('Landing Gear Control Handle 2-Pos UP/DOWN'),    category = {_('Left Vertical Panel')}},
{down = gear_commands.HookHandle, up = gear_commands.HookHandle, cockpit_device_id = devices.GEAR_INTERFACE, value_down =  1.0, value_up =  0.0, name = _('Arresting Hook Handle 2-Pos UP/DOWN'), category = {_('Right Vertical Panel')}},
{down = HUD_commands.HUD_AltitudeSw, up = HUD_commands.HUD_AltitudeSw, cockpit_device_id = devices.HUD,    value_down =  1.0, value_up =  0.0, name = _('Altitude Switch 2-Pos BARO/RADAR'), category = {_('Instrument Panel'), _('HUD Control Panel')}},
{down = cpt_commands.CanopySwitchClose, up = cpt_commands.CanopySwitchOpen, cockpit_device_id = devices.CPT_MECHANICS, value_down =  -1.0, value_up = 1.0, name = _('Canopy Control Switch 2-Pos OPEN/CLOSE'), category = {_('Right Wall'), _('Systems')}},
{down = oxygen_commands.OBOGS_ControlSw, up = oxygen_commands.OBOGS_ControlSw, cockpit_device_id = devices.OXYGEN_INTERFACE, value_down =  1.0,    value_up = 0.0,    name = _('OBOGS Control Switch 2-Pos ON/OFF'), category = {_('Left Console')}},
{down = cptlights_commands.HookBypass, up = cptlights_commands.HookBypass,    cockpit_device_id = devices.CPT_LIGTHS,    value_down =  -1.0,    value_up = 1.0,    name = _('Hook Bypass 2-Pos Switch FIELD/CARRIER'), category = {_('Left Vertical Panel')}},
{down = gear_commands.LaunchBarSw, up = gear_commands.LaunchBarSw, cockpit_device_id = devices.GEAR_INTERFACE, value_down =  -1.0, value_up = 1.0,    name = _('Launch Bar Control 2-Pos Switch RETRACT/EXTEND'), category = {_('Left Vertical Panel')}},
{down = extlights_commands.LdgTaxi,    up = extlights_commands.LdgTaxi, cockpit_device_id = devices.EXT_LIGHTS, value_down =  1.0,    value_up =  0.0, name = _('LDG/TAXI LIGHT Switch 2-Pos ON/OFF'), category = {_('Left Vertical Panel')}},
{down = ctrl_commands.WingFoldPull, pressed  = ctrl_commands.WingFoldSelect, cockpit_device_id = devices.CONTROL_INTERFACE, value_down = 1.0, value_pressed = -1.0, name = _('Wing Fold Control PULL-FOLD'), category = {_('Right Vertical Panel')}},
{down = ctrl_commands.WingFoldSelect, up  = ctrl_commands.WingFoldPull, cockpit_device_id = devices.CONTROL_INTERFACE, value_down = 1.0, value_up = 0.0, name = _('Wing Fold Control SPREAD-STOW'), category = {_('Right Vertical Panel')}},
{down = fuel_commands.DumpSw, up = fuel_commands.DumpSw, cockpit_device_id = devices.FUEL_INTERFACE, value_down =  1.0, value_up = -1.0, name = _('Fuel Dump Switch 2-Pos ON/OFF'), category = {_('Left Console'), _('Fuel Control Panel')}},
{down = 3256, up = 3256, cockpit_device_id = 0,    value_down =  -1.0,    value_up =  0.0, name = _('Flashlight 2-Pos ON/OFF'), category = {_('View Cockpit'), _('Right Console')}},
{down = iCommandPlaneShowKneeboard,    up = iCommandPlaneShowKneeboard, value_down = 1.0, value_up = -1.0,    name = _('Kneeboard 2-Pos SHOW/HIDE'), category = _('Kneeboard')},
{down=gear_commands.EmergParkHandleSelectPark, up=gear_commands.EmergParkHandleOnOff,cockpit_device_id=devices.GEAR_INTERFACE,value_down=1.0,value_up=-1.0,name=_('Emergency/Parking Brake Handle - CCW+Pull'),category=_('[13] Front Left - Vertical Panel')},

 

I could have achieved the same result with TARGET if all my game controllers were from Thrustmaster. But my Button Box is from DSD and my Joystick is from VIRPIL. So, TARGET is useless for me.

Caution though: the 2-position commands work with 2-position switches which stay in the ON or in the OFF position; not with spring-loaded pushbuttons.

 

notice the second line THROTTLE_EXTERIOR_LIGTHS  .. lights is obviously mispelled.  Correct it and save, and the switch will begin working again

[LeCuvier]

8 hours ago, Iceman555 said:

notice the second line THROTTLE_EXTERIOR_LIGTHS  .. lights is obviously mispelled.  Correct it and save, and the switch will begin working again

Yes, this was mis-spelled in the stock files as well some updates ago, and correct spelling would not have worked. The updated collection of added bindings is posted here:

https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/270080-lua-editing-for-additional-key-binds-tutorial-no-discussion-here-please/?tab=comments#elControls_4691325_menu