Ships in DCS Add ons?

[SN68]

Hello,any chance to implement full operational ships in future addons like could be Russian and US Navy fleet (submarines,destroyers,cruisers,frigates,carriers,.......etc) ?

And what about other fighters?

 

Best regards.

[Glowing_Amraam]

Hmm, as far as i know, everything you mentioned is already in the sim... But if anyone else knows otherwize, feel free to correct me. :P

[Geier]

AFAIR there're no submarines in DCS....hmm

[SN68]

Would be really nice to model subs aswell and ASW airplanes and helos.

 

Good Job in advance.

[Ratgnagna]

Can FARP be on a ship?

[Glowing_Amraam]

Right, maybe not subs... hmm...

Honestly, i haven't checked, so i can't really confirm it.

[Eagle Driver]

I dunno about BS, but I found Lockon's Naval-ness pretty interesting. Firstly, I don't know if it's realistic or not, but reading Patrick Robinson books leads me to believe that Cruise missiles like Harpoon and Exocet are hard to get at before it's pretty late, but the ships in FC seem to pluck them off really easily. This leads to the question: does LO use a spherical model for the planet? It's hard to be over the horizon if the horizon isn't round. Also, submarines as implemented are, AFAIK, useless in FC, they can't attack or anything! Submarines represent by far the greatest threat to a carrier, as they can loiter silently and destroy them with nuclear or conventional torpedoes if handled perfectly. As it is now, 30+ jets have to go on a suicide mission and launch 4 cruisers each to have a chance against a single ship in a CVBG.

 

Probably not going to be fixed in BS, but could we maybe have an "underwater" with the new engine? I don't think any other sim has done this, and it would be a handy time to fix the current system for modelling lakes and big rivers. One shouldn't be able to see the coastline of a lake ABOVE the horizon when flying level. That one lake in the Caucusus (the one with the dam) is the PERFECT example of this.

[Avimimus]

There were ASW helicopters in Lomac!

 

I assume we will be able to land the Kamov on destroyers (based on TBS videos)?

 

DCS could move in the direction of Sonalysts even more easily than towards Bohemia Interactive. I wouldn't put anything past these people. That said, there is already a lot of work to be done in the flight department.

[Eagle Driver]

ASW means Anit-Submarine-Warfare. In LO, there were no true submarines, just submarine-shaped easy targets. To be a real submarine, it actually has to go... I don't know... maybe... underwater? The primary weapon of a submarine is the torpedo, a staple of modern naval warfare, completely unmodelled. Also, stealth is a key advantage to the submarine. A good nuclear SSN can attack targets thousands of miles away with Tomahawks or RADUGA's from under the surface. Then there's ballistic missile subs, SSBN's, but we shouldn't get into them unless ED wants to model nuclear weapons *hint*. However, a modern Ohio Class converted SSGN Cruise Missile sub is a very real and very integral part of the US Navy's arsenal, and not one to be forgotten or neglected. Helo sim, jet sim, whatever, it's still a War sim at the core. Naval warfare is in a way just as big as land and air combat, and deserves significant, if not equal attention to basic capabilities.

[SN68]

Yes,I know about DW.I have it installed,but even though in a operational way is quite good,is not very eye candy talking about graphics and effects.

Would be nice that DCS could move in a future towards a GLOBAL COVERAGE,and implementing not just new fighters and helicopters,fully controllable and operational surface and submarine units would be desirable.

Imagine the Devs. showing us the buildup of an Udaloy class,Kiev,Kurnetzot,or a Typhoon.And what do you tell me about a Nimitz class,Ticonderoga,Arleigh Burke or FFG7, all this with big detail and with a large ops menu for each unit?

Would be really amazing.

[Shaman]

Yes,I know about DW.I have it installed,but even though in a operational way is quite good,is not very eye candy talking about graphics and effects.

Would be nice that DCS could move in a future towards a GLOBAL COVERAGE,and implementing not just new fighters and helicopters,fully controllable and operational surface and submarine units would be desirable.

Imagine the Devs. showing us the buildup of an Udaloy class,Kiev,Kurnetzot,or a Typhoon.And what do you tell me about a Nimitz class,Ticonderoga,Arleigh Burke or FFG7, all this with big detail and with a large ops menu for each unit?

Would be really amazing.

 

Hmm.... I've been thinking why to force your way through open doors? Wouldn't it better if ED invited Sonalyst into development of DCS addons?

[Yellonet]

does LO use a spherical model for the planet?

I don't think so, but I'm sure that support for spherical world will be a feature of the new game engine.

[Weta43]

You don't realy need a spherical world - the distance to the horizon at any altitude is easy to calculate, so you can have the effect without the complication.

[Yellonet]

You don't realy need a spherical world - the distance to the horizon at any altitude is easy to calculate, so you can have the effect without the complication.

Yes, it's easy to calculate, but how would you creat the illusion of a spherical world then? Just having things pop up all of the sudden?

[Eagle Driver]

It also would make things harder to get into DCS: Operation Foxhound. :music_whistling:

[GGTharos]

I'm not sure why everyone wants a MiG-31. It's job is to fly over Russia, look down and shoot at incoming bombers or cruise missiles, then go land. Looking to the radar horizon limit is pretty useless when you consider that you won't be seeing a target past 200km under those circumstances. It isn't an aircraft that's built to engage fighters - if it tries, it'll get dropped out of the sky like yesterday's news (unless it's CNN news ... they repeat over and over and ... ), Further, it is a bit of a waste to use it a role it was not intended to carry out when there are more capable aircraft out there that can do so.

[Avimimus]

The Mig-31 is the contemporary Mig-3. It is an interceptor that looks like a good idea but which would quickly fall out of date.

 

It can fly close to Mach-3 and at high altitude. It had the most powerful radar on a fighter and was capable of simultaneously engaging four targets (compared to the one target of other contemporary fighters). It has powerful missiles with excellent BVR capability. It isn't a dog-fighter but then "who likes to dogfight"? ;)

 

I think most of us want to fly it because it is such a powerful design with such great handicaps. It is enjoyable to be outclassed and yet still have something going for you.