Branli Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 I have constantly random crashes when i play DCS World OB (Latest build). Today it was really extreme. 3 Crashes within 3 - 4 hours. I tested this with 1 specific mission i play most of the times on DCS World OB, never had issues with this mission before 2.5.5. Events occur: - Start Mission Editor - Load my Custom Mission - Select any client aircraft - Start flying - Game crashes randomly (CTD), sometimes even after 5 min. Note: I know when you play this mission longer the MRLS will launch missiles and create massive framedrops but this was never an issue. Same events occur when selecting the mission from the "Mission" option in the menu I also noticed my memory was near 12GB. I got 32GB installed. See attached files and logs.dcs.log-20200330-211221.zipCaucasus - Winter - Defend the base .miz
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted March 31, 2020 ED Team Posted March 31, 2020 Welcome to the forum, and thank you for the data. Is you GPU overclocked at all? It looks like a display driver crash. 2020-03-30 21:12:20.263 ERROR DX11BACKEND: DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0006 2020-03-30 21:12:20.812 WARNING LOG: 2 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2020-03-30 21:12:20.812 ERROR DX11BACKEND: failed to create structed buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED 2020-03-30 21:12:20.812 ERROR DX11BACKEND: CreateShaderResourceView FAILED. Reason: E_INVALIDARG 2020-03-30 21:12:20.813 ERROR DX11BACKEND: failed to create structed buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED 2020-03-30 21:12:20.813 ERROR DX11BACKEND: CreateShaderResourceView FAILED. Reason: E_INVALIDARG 2020-03-30 21:12:20.813 ERROR DX11BACKEND: failed to create structed buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED 2020-03-30 21:12:20.813 ERROR DX11BACKEND: CreateShaderResourceView FAILED. Reason: E_INVALIDARG 2020-03-30 21:12:20.819 ERROR DX11BACKEND: DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0006 2020-03-30 21:12:20.819 INFO EDCORE: try to write dump information 2020-03-30 21:12:20.821 INFO EDCORE: # -------------- 20200330-211221 -------------- 2020-03-30 21:12:20.823 INFO EDCORE: DCS/2.5.6.45317 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.18363) 2020-03-30 21:12:20.824 INFO EDCORE: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll 2020-03-30 21:12:20.825 INFO EDCORE: # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 6E26F4F0 00:00000000 2020-03-30 21:12:20.827 INFO EDCORE: SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;D:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta;D:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 530, UserName: 'Bart' 2020-03-30 21:12:20.828 INFO EDCORE: OS-Version: 10.0.18363 () 0x100-0x1 2020-03-30 21:12:21.354 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000011F4F0 (d3d11): CreateDirect3D11SurfaceFromDXGISurface + 0xD4F0 2020-03-30 21:12:21.354 INFO EDCORE: 0x0000000000006DE7 (dx11backend): RenderAPI::DX11Renderer::tesselatorIsActive + 0x737 2020-03-30 21:12:21.354 INFO EDCORE: 0x0000000000076803 (edterrainGraphics41): edtg41::TerrainRenderable::dumpRenderItem + 0x656F3 2020-03-30 21:12:21.354 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000000C6823 (edterrainGraphics41): createInstancerRenderable + 0x33F33 2020-03-30 21:12:21.355 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000000DC3F8 (edCore): ed::this_thread::yield + 0x318 2020-03-30 21:12:21.355 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000000D3CDA (edCore): ed::make_main_thread_tasks + 0x1A 2020-03-30 21:12:21.355 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000006EC9E8 (DCS): dDispatcher::InitDatabase + 0xE138 2020-03-30 21:12:21.355 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000006C2D44 (DCS): woLA::loadNewInputLayout + 0x2EAC44 2020-03-30 21:12:21.355 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000006C3109 (DCS): woLA::loadNewInputLayout + 0x2EB009 2020-03-30 21:12:21.355 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000168FA28 (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xB14A24 2020-03-30 21:12:21.355 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000089ECFE (DCS): uiAsyncNet::onGameStop + 0x6756E 2020-03-30 21:12:21.355 INFO EDCORE: 0x0000000000017BD4 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14 2020-03-30 21:12:21.355 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000006CED1 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21 2020-03-30 21:12:21.532 INFO EDCORE: Minidump created. 2020-03-30 21:12:21.536 INFO DCS: enumerating loaded modules Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Branli Posted March 31, 2020 Author Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) Thanks for the reply. Playing already 4 years DCS World and love it. Sadly i encountered some bugs. To anwser your questions: No i didn't overclock the GPU. Used default settings. My system specs: AMD Ryzen 5 3600, @3.6GHz PowerColor RX 5700 XT Red Dragon Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming motherboard 2x G. Skill Trident Z 16GB 3600 (32GB total) Samsung 970 Pro NVME 1TB Corsair SF600 600W PSU DDU-ed the before installing any drivers I use the latest AMD GPU Drivers (20.2.2 WHQL) I use the latest AMD Chipset drivers (2.03.12.0657) It might be that the PSU is failing. Because I also get Kernel-Power ID 41 crashes. Can that be the case? Otherwise the only thing to blame is AMD Drivers. Edited March 31, 2020 by Branli Additional info
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted March 31, 2020 ED Team Posted March 31, 2020 Thanks for the reply. Playing already 4 years DCS World and love it. Sadly i encountered some bugs. To anwser your questions: No i didn't overclock the GPU. Used default settings. My system specs: AMD Ryzen 5 3600, @3.6GHz PowerColor RX 5700 XT Red Dragon Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming motherboard 2x G. Skill Trident Z 16GB 3600 (32GB total) Samsung 970 Pro NVME 1TB Corsair SF600 600W PSU DDU-ed the before installing any drivers I use the latest AMD GPU Drivers (20.2.2 WHQL) I use the latest AMD Chipset drivers (2.03.12.0657) It might be that the PSU is failing. Because I also get Kernel-Power ID 41 crashes. Can that be the case? Otherwise the only thing to blame is AMD Drivers. Thank you for supporting us! The PSU maybe a possibility, never like to consider it as it is always the more expensive solution. My advice if you have done a cleanup and repair already and you have ruled out OC or driver issues is to wait for the next patch and see if it helps. It isnt far away, let me know how you get on. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Branli Posted April 2, 2020 Author Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) Update: I bought and installed a brand new PSU, Corsair SF750 750W 80 Plus Platinum. This should be more then enough. I also did a cleanup and repair of DCS World to be sure. Sadly, the game still crashed even 5 minutes after i started the mission above. I think this 100% a driver issue. Only thing i can think of is: - Wipe the whole SSD / NVME - Clean install Windows 10 Build 1909 - Update Windows - Install latest drivers - Clean install DCS World Open Beta - Load / Play Mission. Will update this thread / log of my adventures. Edited April 2, 2020 by Branli
Amarok_73 Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 Hi Branli, could You share update? What did You do to eliminate the problem, and what is the current situation? Natural Born Kamikaze ------------------------- AMD Ryzen 5 3600, AMD Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4, AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, 32 GB RAM Corsair Vengeance LPX, PSU Modecom Volcano 750W, Virpil Constellation Alpha Prime on Moza AB9 base, Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle, Turtle Beach VelocityOne Rudder.
Branli Posted August 16, 2020 Author Posted August 16, 2020 Hello again, sorry for the long delay. Lots of things happened. Long story short, i've solved the issue and found out why it was crashing. There where multiple issues which resulted in crashing DCS World and also other games, but not that frequent. I don't think DCS World was to blame in this case. High power spikes / surges from the power network, this was the main culprit after a long search of excluding all possible options which could result this weird behavior. The reason why i came to this conclusion is after replacing 1 brand new PSU and 3 dead GPU's (2x Powercolor 5700XT Red Dragon, 1 Zotac 2070 Super mini), YES 3 :P luckily all components refunded within warranty. Normally a PSU should filter out high power spikes, but some high frequencies might still pass the PSU and enter the system where high frequencies might cause issues, also sometimes called "ripple" / "noise". These high power spikes / surges happen when you have a dirty power network. I never experienced this before but it seems new technology might be more sensitive. To fix this issue there are multiple options: 1. Check what kind of high frequencies are passing through the net. Very time consuming, requires special equipment such as oscilloscope. 2. Call an electrician and search if the issue is caused within the house. Very expensive and time consuming. 3. Buy a powersocket with a netfilter, which filters high frequencies. Quick fix, less expensive only you don't know for sure that it won't happen again its only less likely. I tried to go for the first option and rent an oscilloscope, but those are hard to get and very expensive to purchase. After that i called an electrician, but he told that finding this issue is very time consuming and might result in an expensive bill. So in the end i went for option 3. Which worked perfect for me so far. I purchased this powersocket which protects agains powersurges but also lightingstrikes: https://www.brennenstuhl.co.uk/en-GB/products/extension-leads/premium-line-30.000a-extension-socket-with-surge-protection-with-usb-charger-6-way-black-3m-05vv-f-3g1.25-gb
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