New to TM Warthog

[Wolf359]

What about actions that don't have any keyboard commands associated with them, such as OBOGS? It's one thing to bind an equivalent to a keyboard command, but might be a whole another mess if scripting is involved, which I want nothing to do with.

 

@Ant0ine: I hear ya, but I'd like to not have a plethora of software loaded just to fly. However, I AM checking those out also.

[Wolf359]

Target morphs your controllers (those you include into that profile) into one virtual controller. After launching the profile, you can map your buttons/switches either in DCS or in Target, or a mixed layout. But your DCS keybindings on the throttle/Stick are gone, as the virtual Target controller is recognized by DCS as a new device.

 

An issue with morhping your HOTAS into one virtual controller is, that one controller can only have 8 axis and a specific number of buttons/switches (can't remember exactly how much, but 8 is the limit for axis). It's a windows issue, not realy a Target problem. I.e i have only the Warthog throttle included to my Target profiles to make use of the 2 and 3 way switches, but my pedals and my stick is excluded from the profile and conpletely mapped in DCS. Just because the axis are mapped in DCS anyways and not in Target and i didn't need the additional functions for the stick either.

 

Target is a powerful tool. If y don't use Target (or similar software), you're missing a lot of the Warthogs potential. In competive multiplayer the Target script editor could almost be designated cheating. But even the GUI software is great IMO, not as difficult to use as the script editor (unless you can code) and provides nice features and functions. But you'll find very diverse opinions about Target here. Some ppl (like me) don't wanna miss it anymore, while for others it's the seed of evil.

 

Joystick Gremlin is a similar software, not bound to any controls manufactor. If you don't like Target, you may wanna try this one. A lot of ppl say there is no need for separate mapping software, but i'd highly recommend one.

 

Thanks, both of you. I've got some checking out to do!

[VpR81]

What about actions that don't have any keyboard commands associated with them, such as OBOGS?

 

A lot of functions (in study lvl aircrafts) don't have keyboard commands mapped. You can assign one by yourself and use modificators if the button is already assigned to a different function. I mapped a few functions with keybinds in DCS by myself to lay them on the throtlle. I.e. external tanks fuel flow.

[Wolf359]

TARGET is not as intuitive as it should be. Is there somewhere in the software that lists the buttons? It seems I have to run the script editor in order to see those mappings. Gremlin is more intuitive, BUT it saves the profiles in xml. How do I get the profiles in DCS format?

[Ant0ine]

TARGET is not as intuitive as it should be. Is there somewhere in the software that lists the buttons? It seems I have to run the script editor in order to see those mappings.

 

If I understood correctly, you should find what you want here :

C:\Program Files (x86)\Thrustmaster\TARGET\Resources

 

Edit : You can acces that directly from the GUI :

 

Gremlin is more intuitive, BUT it saves the profiles in xml. How do I get the profiles in DCS format?

 

I don't understand, why would you need that? In Gremlin you remap a physical buttons/axes/... to a virtual buttons/axes/..., then in DCS you map the virtual buttons/axes/... in the Virtual Joystick category (Vjoy indeed create a new joystick on your computer). Or keyboard if you remapped to keyboard, or mouse if you remapped to mouse.

Edited April 27, 2020 by Ant0ine

[Wolf359]

@Ant0ine: Because in the Gremlin software I can determine what happens when a button is released. So, buttons 29 and 30 are the throttle detents when placed in the off position. Now, if I want to create an action for when the throttles are placed in the idle position, I need to do that in the software. DCS does not have that ability to recognize when I "release" those buttons; only when the buttons are "on". During startup, I want to reach over and lift each throttle to the idle position and that action introduce fuel into each engine. There are keyboard commands for this, I can bind it to other switches, but in DCS I cannot bind it to the throttles. I can bind the off position to shutting down the engines, but that's it.

 

Or am I still missing something?

[Ant0ine]

@Ant0ine: Because in the Gremlin software I can determine what happens when a button is released. So, buttons 29 and 30 are the throttle detents when placed in the off position. Now, if I want to create an action for when the throttles are placed in the idle position, I need to do that in the software. DCS does not have that ability to recognize when I "release" those buttons; only when the buttons are "on". During startup, I want to reach over and lift each throttle to the idle position and that action introduce fuel into each engine. There are keyboard commands for this, I can bind it to other switches, but in DCS I cannot bind it to the throttles. I can bind the off position to shutting down the engines, but that's it.

 

Or am I still missing something?

 

Indeed you must use Gremlin or Target to get the release of the button 29 and 30 to work in DCS (same for all other switch on the throttle. Apparently you already know how to do that using Gremlin.

 

BUT it saves the profiles in xml. How do I get the profiles in DCS format?

 

That isn't, needed. Or maybe I don't understand what you mean. Here is an exemple quickly for left throttle :

https://imgur.com/a/IKdgW8T

 

 

 

Then in game you map the Vjoy button (button 1 in this case) to Throttle left Idle :

 

 

If you remap directly to the Keyboard shortcut already mapped in DCS then it would be even "easier". No need to map what you have done in Gremlin, into DCS. But, I advise you to use DX button.

Edited April 27, 2020 by Ant0ine

[Wolf359]

Thanks! I'll play around with TARGET and Gremlin more tonight, when I get home from work.