Tiger-II Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 Hi, A new problems seems to have appeared in the last update. RADAR is in RWS, at 60 degree scan. Target is "soft locked", and the gates narrow, but they remain centered and ignore the cursors. If the target is off to the side outside of the gate limits, the target lock appears to be dropped. The target must be dropped, the RADAR mode cycled to unfreeze the gate, the gate resized to 25, then slewed over the target and the target re-locked. This happens any time a target is designated in RWS 60 scan mode. Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot."
AeriaGloria Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 Did you check the change log notes about SAM ASM and NAM? That should be intended within 20nm. Should be S2 left to go to NAM and manual control Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
Tiger-II Posted May 21, 2020 Author Posted May 21, 2020 Did you check the change log notes about SAM ASM and NAM? That should be intended within 20nm. Should be S2 left to go to NAM and manual control Hmm - I'm not understanding anything of what you just wrote. :helpsmilie: Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot."
J20Stronk Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 Hmm - I'm not understanding anything of what you just wrote. :helpsmilie: SAM has 2 submodes that control its Scan Width and Bar count. ASM, the default mode, automatically sets the SW and Bar based on range to the target. When HPT is beyond 20nm, SW is +-30 degrees, 2 bar scan. Within 20nm, SW is +-15 degrees with a 4 bar scan. NAM lets you control SW and Bar count manually.
AeriaGloria Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 Either the change log for each DCS build or the JF-17 specific change log is enough, it’s a good idea to read them when a new patch is out https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=257303 Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
Tiger-II Posted May 21, 2020 Author Posted May 21, 2020 SAM has 2 submodes that control its Scan Width and Bar count. ASM, the default mode, automatically sets the SW and Bar based on range to the target. When HPT is beyond 20nm, SW is +-30 degrees, 2 bar scan. Within 20nm, SW is +-15 degrees with a 4 bar scan. NAM lets you control SW and Bar count manually. Ahh! Thanks! These are new modes just added? I'll hit the manuals. Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot."
Tiger-II Posted May 21, 2020 Author Posted May 21, 2020 Either the change log for each DCS build or the JF-17 specific change log is enough, it’s a good idea to read them when a new patch is out https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=257303 Thanks! I'm trying to post and work at the same time. :P It seems these are new modes? That was the part I didn't understand. I already read the changelog. Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot."
Tiger-II Posted May 21, 2020 Author Posted May 21, 2020 SAM has 2 submodes that control its Scan Width and Bar count. ASM, the default mode, automatically sets the SW and Bar based on range to the target. When HPT is beyond 20nm, SW is +-30 degrees, 2 bar scan. Within 20nm, SW is +-15 degrees with a 4 bar scan. NAM lets you control SW and Bar count manually. My brain caught up...so are these new? I still think there is a bug here as when I lock the target now from 60 deg scan in RWS, it drops when the brackets reduce in size, and they stay centered instead of slewing to the side where the target is. The brackets also no longer move with the RADAR cursor after dropping lock (S2 press). Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot."
AeriaGloria Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 It won’t be in the manual, just read the change log https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4294879&postcount=10 “Added radar SAM sub mode ASM/NAM: if hpt is designated in RWS (radar mode into SAM), pilot can cycle ASM/NAM SAM sub mode by HOTAS/key S2_Left ; Code: NAM: pilot have to set radar scan az and line manually; ASM: radar scan az and line is set automatic, cannot manually set by pilot. hpt range > 20nm, 30.0 degrees, 2 line; hpt range <= 20nm, 15.0 degrees, 4 line;” In ASM the brackets should follow the target, so that is weird, haven’t tested it myself yet Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
Tiger-II Posted May 22, 2020 Author Posted May 22, 2020 In ASM the brackets should follow the target, so that is weird, haven’t tested it myself yet It appears they don't. I also just discovered another source of confusion: at some point the RADAR is switching itself into VS mode, which is why I can't lock a target after dropping lock. It appears that: * RWS -> ASM does not move the gates so target gets lost * Upon loss of target in ASM mode, RADAR is entering VS mode Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot."
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