which gpu suits better in an older pc ?

[thearies]

hey folks,

 

specs: pcie 2.0 x16 board, 16gb ram, fx8120 @3,4ghz, 500gb ssd, gtx 1050 2gb ram

 

...does it make sense to put a gtx 1660 6gb in this old thing ?

 

otherwise i thought about a cheaper 580oc 8gb, just for flying some rounds in not too big missions

 

is there any advance to have 8gb then 6gb ?

 

cheers

[reece146]

I'm not familiar with the AMD FX series.

 

I am running a i7-3770 overclocked to 4.7 GHz.

 

I was running a RX580 overclocked. It sucked.

 

I upgraded to a 2070 Super several weeks ago. It's a great card. I am running lots of stuff turned on, MSAAx2, ANx16, SSAAx1.5, high everything else but flat shadows and low civvy traffic, 1440p. The card is running at x8 since I have a GTX660 in one of the other x16 slots for my CAD terminal on the other desk. Never noticed a FPS difference when I switched the card between x16 and x8. PCIe 3.0 x8 is roughly the same as PCIe 2.0 x16 with respect to bandwidth. If you research it online the PCIe 2 vs 3 vs x8 vs x16 does not really matter that much. The GPU processing that reduces the data inside the card is what matters if you follow my meaning. But of course if you can PCIe 3 @ 16 of course do that! :)

 

Frame rates are ~70-120 depending on what I'm doing. Typically above 60 even near the ground. I do get the occasional stutter into the 40s with complex scenes if it hasn't had a chance to load (Normandy @ L'Harve buzzing the ships in the L-39C for example).

 

I am CPU bound now but for free-flight, light missions and general training this is a great setup for now. Haven't been dogfighting in the jets but last night with Spitfire instant dogfight over Normandy the frame rate was fast enough that I never noticed it. Silky smooth. I've noticed the jets are much harder on CPU (code behind those MFD screens I guess).

 

Anecdotal data point is anecdotal.

 

HTH

Edited May 21, 2020 by reece146

[reece146]

I think the more VRAM you have the better. 8GB+ is ideal.

 

 

Stick with NVIDIA if you can if you need to stay in the lower end of the product range. 2060 Super is roughly equivalent to RX 5700XT. The only AMD card I would spend money on now is the 5700XT. From NVIDIA I don't know if the 1660 is a big enough change from what you already have to be worth spending the money.

Edited May 21, 2020 by reece146

[thearies]

im more in the max 250€ range ;)

 

userbenchmark say this:

 

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1660S-Super-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1050/4056vs3650

 

alternative

 

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1050-vs-AMD-RX-5500-XT/3650vs4060

 

 

so better nvidia gtx1660 s 6gb then amd rx5500 xt 8gb ?

[thearies]

that looks not soo bad... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPhlQ_33rYM

[Svsmokey]

Consider a used 1070 ? In your price range , slightly better performance than a 1660S , and 8gb vram . When Vulkan lands , the extra vram would be a good thing .

[thearies]

ja but i'm not so happy with the secondhand hardware idea and for the fact that i'm an

opportunity player ...i would say the gtx1660 super is the choice... i'm ok with 1080 resolution so the 6gb will not have that impakt on me... think i'm ok with that. ;) thanks !

[Cupra]

I actual also want to upgrade my GPU... CPU and RAM are okay. Which one of those would perform best in DCS? Which 2nd or 3rd place?

 

1. AMD R9 290 3GB

2. AMD RX580 8GB

3. Nvidia GTX 1660Ti 6GB

4. Nvidia RTX 2060 6GB

5. AMD RX 5500XT 8GB

6. AMD RX 5600XT 6GB

7. Nvidia GTX 1070 8GB

8. Nvidia GTX 970 Strix 6GB

 

Those are all I can pay at the moment, stronger versions are not possible at the moment. Thanks for your hints :)

[schroedi]

I actual also want to upgrade my GPU... CPU and RAM are okay. Which one of those would perform best in DCS? Which 2nd or 3rd place?

 

1. AMD R9 290 3GB

2. AMD RX580 8GB

3. Nvidia GTX 1660Ti 6GB

4. Nvidia RTX 2060 6GB

5. AMD RX 5500XT 8GB

6. AMD RX 5600XT 6GB

7. Nvidia GTX 1070 8GB

8. Nvidia GTX 970 Strix 6GB

 

Those are all I can pay at the moment, stronger versions are not possible at the moment. Thanks for your hints :)

 

R9 290 has 4GB not 3GB

GTX 970 has 3,5/4GB not 6GB

 

check this site, and look the difference and what these cards cost used. A RTX 2060 is way more expensive than a GTX 970 https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2060-vs-Nvidia-GTX-970/4034vs2577

Edited May 24, 2020 by schroedi

[Pilotasso]

hey folks,

 

specs: pcie 2.0 x16 board, 16gb ram, fx8120 @3,4ghz, 500gb ssd, gtx 1050 2gb ram

 

...does it make sense to put a gtx 1660 6gb in this old thing ?

 

otherwise i thought about a cheaper 580oc 8gb, just for flying some rounds in not too big missions

 

is there any advance to have 8gb then 6gb ?

 

cheers

 

You need a complete upgrade. I guess you are budget limited?

 

My suggestion:

 

AMD 3600 CPU.

Cheap B450 board

16 GB of 3200Mhz RAM.

Radeon 5600XT

 

ABSOLUTELY avoid a expensive graphics card on such old system.

[thearies]

"You need a complete upgrade. I guess you are budget limited?"

:music_whistling:

 

good to hear that not everyone is money affected by covid-19, but a whole systemupgrade is not intended ! and when... the gpu is the first part of it... its just about flying some rounds ! ;)

[Pilotasso]

Its a budget build not a workstation for gaming :D

 

If COVID affected you then this is the worst time to plan an upgrade. Come back later when your on your feet again after your priorities have been addressed.

Edited May 25, 2020 by Pilotasso

[Thinder]

I actual also want to upgrade my GPU... CPU and RAM are okay. Which one of those would perform best in DCS? Which 2nd or 3rd place?

 

1. AMD R9 290 3GB

2. AMD RX580 8GB

3. Nvidia GTX 1660Ti 6GB

4. Nvidia RTX 2060 6GB

5. AMD RX 5500XT 8GB

6. AMD RX 5600XT 6GB

7. Nvidia GTX 1070 8GB

8. Nvidia GTX 970 Strix 6GB

 

Those are all I can pay at the moment, stronger versions are not possible at the moment. Thanks for your hints :)

 

For this game, you'll need VRAM on your card, I chose to upgrade my PC with an MSI Radeon RX 5500 XT MECH 8G OC for this reason and I had it new below £200, the larger the amount of texture, the better this card will compare to the other.

 

I used NVidia both for gaming and 3D design, I have no hesitation to swap to AMD or the opposite, not that the NVidia cards are bad or performances are lower, I just pic what I need according to performance/price.

 

The only real advantage I did find in the past using NVidia over AMD were the drivers until something happened to those drivers a couple of years ago, I had stability issues, or drivers that wouldn't install etc.

 

Note that it is not necessarily NVidia's fault, driver support with Windows 10 is garbage, like too many things with this O.S.

 

Since I haven't been playing for some time, I kept a second-hand GeForce GTX 1060 3GB but I want to play this game, so I really need to upgrade and this is my pic, I haven't upgraded yet, parts are being dispatched but not delivered yet.

Edited May 26, 2020 by Thinder

[thearies]

Its a budget build not a workstation for gaming :D

 

If COVID affected you then this is the worst time to plan an upgrade. Come back later when your on your feet again after your priorities have been addressed.

 

everything is cool here, don't judge others by one's own standards ! ;)

[thearies]

For this game, you'll need VRAM on your card, I chose to upgrade my PC with an MSI Radeon RX 5500 XT MECH 8G OC for this reason and I had it new below £200, the larger the amount of texture, the better this card will compare to the other.

 

...thats a good advise, i think i also will go for the rx5500 xt.

[Cupra]

Same here.. ordered a RX 550XT with 8GB. Should fit my flying desktop.