Engine & Cockpit Sounds Fix Mod

[sedenion]

3 hours ago, PLUTON said:

Thank you for the detailed explanations, I will try to do and especially to achieve a concrete result.
Yes, the goal is to increase the whistle that we hear (too little) in the cockpit and that it is a little more than perceptible.
Of course I will keep you informed of my results or not.
Don't expect quick news because since my name is not Mr SEDENION I think it will take me time to succeed hahaha.
Thank you again and see you soon

I ma currently working on a new version with a little more audible whistle... The fact is that I created this mod using headset of pretty good quality and I have good hears, now using regular speakers I find the whistle is indeed barely audible in the version 2.2.

Edited June 27, 2023 by sedenion

[PLUTON]

Haaaaa YOUPI super because I understood your explanations and even managed to make some changes like that to try
but as for omenting the whistling nada I couldn't find which one needed to be modified; between us I'll let the pro do his job and I'm sure it will be done well as usual. Looking forward to uploading your new sound?
Thank you Mr SEDENION

[Lenux]

The throttle 

With the default Sound, there is a " click" sound, when reaching the afterburner detent 

What's the name of this file? 

I know how to replace it ( insert it in the mod) together with the sdef file 

Thank you 

[PLUTON]

Ask Sedenion for confirmation but it seems to me that it is the file ( throttle-cutoff ) in
Mod /Aircraft/M2000/Sound/Hotas
Personally I kept the original files to always have the sounds of (cliketi) and trottle

[Lenux]

Thanks 

I wish I could use this amazing mod but there is no such a sound, that's why I asked about the throttle sound.... 

Thank you, again 

 

[sedenion]

1 hour ago, Lenux said:

The throttle 

With the default Sound, there is a " click" sound, when reaching the afterburner detent 

What's the name of this file?

I think these are the throttle-abin.sdef and throttle-about.sdef files whithin the "\Mods\aircraft\M-2000C\Sounds\hotas" folder. The original gain was 5.0 (never understood why so loud), I drasticly dimed all HOTAS sounds gain to 0.2, increase the gain value to make theme more audible. For information nominal gain is 1.0, gain above 1.0 mean sound amplification (however sounds are all normalized in final mixing within DCS).

sdef files are plain text, you can edit them using basic text editor (however I recommand either Notepad++ or Geany like editor, with LUA syntax highlight).

Edited June 27, 2023 by sedenion

[Lenux]

Thank you

So, this mod already contain the throttle detent afterburner sound?? Or I'll have to import it from the original sound folder ( M2000C )? 

I couldn't hear it at all, I checked all the sdef files... 

 

 

[sedenion]

7 minutes ago, Lenux said:

Thank you

So, this mod already contain the throttle detent afterburner sound?? Or I'll have to import it from the original sound folder ( M2000C )? 

I couldn't hear it at all, I checked all the sdef files...

The "wave" sound already exists in your DCS installation folder, so you don't have to "import" anything. If you want the sound to be more loud, increase the gain value in mod's desired sdef files.

[Lenux]

Ok, thanks a million 

[sedenion]

Hi,

New version for this mod with some adjustments for in-cockpit sounds. The main goal was to re-balance intakes whistle, air flow noise and engine vibration sound for a more audible whistle. Also reworked VTB and VTH sound to dismiss anoying low-frequencies. Finaly reworked all cockpits instruments and sounds (switches, noises etc) for a leveled base volume.

Changes logs for this version (2.3) :

• Adjusted in-cockpit compressor flow and intake flow gain
• Reworked compressor flow sound for Weaker "vribration" sound
• Reworked VTH and VTB sounds (filtering low frequencies)
• Reworked instrument sounds with calibrated amplitude and gain

Download link in the initial post of this topic, here

Hope you enjoy.

[PLUTON]

Hello and thank you Mr Sedenion
i download and i will try your new work
I was looking forward to this.
Get hired at Razbam it seems we need people
like you.
ANOTHER BIG THANK YOU

Red carpet for you

[PLUTON]

Very good work Mr Sedenion as usual, just one question please!
how do you get this whistle that follow the engine speed please! do we have the file to modify in the sound Effects or Sdef of the 2000?
video where you can hear it very well.
Thank you in advance for your answer

[sedenion]

19 minutes ago, PLUTON said:

Very good work Mr Sedenion as usual, just one question please!
how do you get this whistle that follow the engine speed please! do we have the file to modify in the sound Effects or Sdef of the 2000?
video where you can hear it very well.

Please be more specific... Currently my mod has a whistle sound that vary with throttle (follow the engine), you should hear it. So what exactly you mean by "how do you get this whistle" ?

[PLUTON]

Please be more specific... Currently my mod has a hiss that varies with throttle (follow the engine), you should hear it. So what exactly do you mean by "how do you get that whistle"?

Like the high-pitched hiss I hear in the video that's with the message that I don't hear in-game.
Do you hear Mr. Sedinion that high-pitched whistle? (this whistle which looks a bit like that of the F16 in the real videos).
Or do I have a hearing problem that wouldn't be surprising at my age?

[sedenion]

1 hour ago, PLUTON said:

Do you hear Mr. Sedinion that high-pitched whistle? (this whistle which looks a bit like that of the F16 in the real videos).

Or do I have a hearing problem that wouldn't be surprising at my age?

I clearly hear the high-pitched whistle... but what you ask for still unclear. I certify there is high-pitched whistle in the mod, the PCM sound corresponding is "compressor-flow-50-in.ogg" and the SDEF file is "int-compressor-flow-50.sdef". If you don't hear it, maybe you don't installed the mod correctly.

Edited July 2, 2023 by sedenion

[PLUTON]

You may be right, I must have installed it incorrectly.
your mod I will redo this cleanly and I will come back to you to let you know what happened.
Anyway thank you for your work
see you

[Stanlesuper]

Hi, will give a try to this update !

Sedenion, did you included a custom AB sound in your previous versions ? 

[sedenion]

1 hour ago, Stanlesuper said:

Hi, will give a try to this update !

Sedenion, did you included a custom AB sound in your previous versions ? 

I don't remember for all versions... for sure since the version 2.0 there is no custom AB sound.

[PLUTON]

Excuse me yes your mod has this high-pitched sound which follows the engine speed, but does not use headphones but just a home cinema
the sound is more serious.
I increased the gain and now I hear it but for me I would like to know how to make it even more high pitched if possible, but it is already magnificent as it is.
Thank you Sound Master

[sedenion]

15 hours ago, PLUTON said:

I increased the gain and now I hear it but for me I would like to know how to make it even more high pitched if possible, but it is already magnificent as it is.
Thank you Sound Master

You can adjust the base pitch of the sound by adding a "pitch" value in the "int-compressor-flow-50.sdef" file. For example pitch = 1.5 but I doubt the result will be what you want. I think what you want need a new sound sample specifically edited.

[PLUTON]

Good morning,
Yes, that's what I think too ,
as you have explained it so well I thought that there was not the adequa file.
I will try int-compressor-flow-50.sdef and increase the base height but just in case it doesn't change anything; the mod you created is already great as it is because it changes the whole immersion of the 2000.
Thank you for your work and your follow-up of the mod
Good flight to you and to all those who love the 2000.

[sedenion]

23 hours ago, PLUTON said:

Good morning,
Yes, that's what I think too ,
as you have explained it so well I thought that there was not the adequa file.
I will try int-compressor-flow-50.sdef and increase the base height but just in case it doesn't change anything; the mod you created is already great as it is because it changes the whole immersion of the 2000.
Thank you for your work and your follow-up of the mod
Good flight to you and to all those who love the 2000.

Ok, using spectrographic analysis I have isolated some harmonics and created a new composite sound for interior compressor blow. The whistle should now be more distinctive. It can be amplified but I think too much whistle would become anoying and non-natural.

Try the version I just created (attached file) and tell me what you think.

(I deleted the attached file since I release a new verion, to prevent confusions)

 

Edited July 6, 2023 by sedenion

[sedenion]

New, and I think "final" version, at least for long time.

Analysing footages and reading some comment, I modified the interior (in-cockpit) compressor flow sound to amplify some harmonics of the whistling, which is more distinctive now. I also slighly changed the turbine vibration (the hum) to fit the theoretical true engine RPM (10500 rpm - 175 hz at 100% throttle).

Finally, I created a new in-cockpit afterburner sound which I also set louder. This is probably not very realistic think I doubt the AB is realy audible from the cockpit, but this add some immertion. The AB "kick" is impossible to produce using current hard coded sound setup, but enabling "loud arfterburner" in DCS audio option will make it more "punchy".

Changes logs for this version (2.4):

• New in-cockpit compressor flow sound with whistle harmonics
• New in-cockpit afterburer sound and set louder

Download link in the initial post of this topic, here

Hope you enjoy.

[Galinette]

If the turbine was causing a sound with frequency equal to its RPM, would mean it's seriously damaged and unbalanced. Any nominal noise will have a multiple frequency (number of blades, gearing, etc...) but not the base RPM frequency.

[sedenion]

11 minutes ago, Kercheiz said:

If the turbine was causing a sound with frequency equal to its RPM, would mean it's seriously damaged and unbalanced. Any nominal noise will have a multiple frequency (number of blades, gearing, etc...) but not the base RPM frequency.

 

Indeed, I though that too, nevertheless, this sound is audible in some footage and clearly related to engine RPM, and seem indeed to correspond the actual engine RMP. Maybe it is an harmonic and resonance effect but the fact I had did a first version by "best guess" to roughly fit what could be heard in footages, then, while I was in my spectrographics analysis and harmonics, I looked the actual M53 engine full RPM to find some mathematic relations, and I discover that my "best guess" for this vibration sound was very close to the one corresponding to the theoretical RMP.

Edited July 6, 2023 by sedenion