Neverending contest (military aviation knowledge)

[Kusch]

The same missile, but different container. Litlle help. This is Albion Air to Air missile ;)

[59th_LeFty]

I've searched the whole internet for this thing, and found NOTHING :D I've tried to use the Hawker Hunter while search such as the Harrier, and other 'like' missiles, but nope. It could be a training version of a missile, e.g. Firestreak. I give up :)

[Kusch]

Another help: ASRAAM ;)

[Groove]

http://www.skomer.u-net.com/projects/asraam.htm

[Kusch]

Correct. Hawker Siddeley Dynamics "Taildog" SRAAM.

 

The starting point for the ASRAAM design was an experimental

short-range missile designed by Hawker Siddeley in the 1970s,

"Taildog". Studying combat reports from the air war

during the Vietnam War, it was clear

that a missile with better maneuverability and a wider seeker angle

was needed in order to successfully intercept the target in the

types of shots the pilots were attempting to make. The US response

was to train their pilots to only fire under certain condition, and

use the cannon under others. Taildog attempted to address this

problem with a better missile instead, one that would guide

properly under these same conditions. Taildog was highly

maneuverable through the use of thrust vectoring for all flight control,

rotating small vanes into the rocket exhaust from their

"hiding" positions behind the rocket body. The

aerodynamic surfaces were reduced to vestigial surfaces near the

rear, and were unmovable. In 1970 the Ministry of

Defence awarded them a development contract under the name

"SRAAM-100", which was later changed to SRAAM. The

contract was cancelled in 1974, but retained as a technology

demonstration program.

 

 

Your turn :)

[Groove]

Still in UK, so im giving my question to anyone who have something interesting!

[Kusch]

Meaby 59th_LeFty ?

[TucksonSonny]

Still in UK, so im giving my question to anyone who have something interesting!

 

Ok, :D

 

Historical questions:

 

1) What was the name of the first plane shot down by Ace Erich Hartmann?

2) What was the name of most successful fighter plane flown by Erich Hartmann?

3) What was the Nationality of the plane recorded as the 352nd victim (and last victim) killed by Erich Hartmann?

4) What plane was Erich Hartmann flying when he made this final kill on the last day of the war in Europe?

 

 

I need 4 correct answers…

[VMFA117_Poko]

Ad1. Il-2

Ad2. Messerchmitt Bf-109G ofcourse

Ad3. US P-51 Mustang?

Ad4. FockeWulf FW-190A?

[Groove]

1) Il-2 Shturmovik

 

2) Bf-109 G/6

 

3) Russian plane over Czehoslovakia ( even i think it was a Mustang over Romania )

 

4) FW-190D ?

[TucksonSonny]

1) Il-2 Shturmovik

 

2) Bf-109 G/6

 

3) Russian plane over Czehoslovakia ( even i think it was a Mustang over Romania )

 

4) FW-190D ?

 

You both have 2 questions correct each (out of 4)!

 

Guess again! I need 4 correct answers :D.

[Groove]

Actually it was a 109 again @ answer no. 4

[TucksonSonny]

Actually it was a 109 again @ answer no. 4

 

Ok, question 3 and 4 is wrong . :D

 

Sorry Poko has 3 out of 4

3) American plane is correct!

So I still need answer 4 please?

[Groove]

Im not sure about your sources ;)

[TucksonSonny]

Im not sure about your sources ;)

 

Trust me, this time I have it on paper! ;)

[Groove]

Didnt knew that Yak-11 he shot down on 8th of May 1945 over Brno was a US plane.

[TucksonSonny]

Didnt knew that Yak-11 he show down on 8th of May 1945 over Brno was a US plane.

 

 

Anyway my source was not confirmed on wikipedia thus new question with the same answer:

“Which plane was assigned at the end of the war for Erich Hartmann by his General Galland?”

 

My source: Plastic cards in Dutch printed in Italy Edito-service S.A. Genиve D5 016 10-20

 

@Groove,

 

My Card collection with photos from Bundesarchiv could be not 100% reliable thus:

Can you give me a link "Yak-11"? I am kind of interested in this stuff.

[Groove]

I have a book about Erich "Bubi" Hartmann, im not at home. So give me two more days :D

[Groove]

Hartmann flew the Me-109 at the end of war. He flew the Me-262 Schwalbe, but not for long.

[VMFA117_Poko]

You sure? I thought he refused flying Me262.

[Groove]

Yes, he refused to fly it but actually after he was flying it.

 

Otr better said he test flew it but he wanted to stay with his "guys" so he told Galland to let him go.

 

JG44 ( Jagdverband 44 ) were flying the Me-262.

[Weta43]

There's no question in any of those posts, so I'll put in an easy one to keep people going - what's this :

 

[Mugatu]

Bird of prey, you might want to look over your shoulder, spooks will be after you hehe.

 

[Weta43]

Nice video - Apparently it had some very unpleasant flight characteristics, esp with the gear down.

& all hydraulics - no FBW at all...

 

Don't know who's turn - I jumped in ..

[TucksonSonny]

Nice video - Apparently it had some very unpleasant flight characteristics, esp with the gear down.

& all hydraulics - no FBW at all...

 

Don't know who's turn - I jumped in ..

 

I think Groove has the most accurate info (turned out it was his last kill which was not done with the ME 262

and even my source of the last American plane shot down as the 352th kill was not accurate info)

 

Because he is 2 more days in UK I guess you can jump in, or any person!

 

Anyway I am not sure about the story:

 

I have a new source confirming my old source:

 

 

Anyway I am not sure about the story:

 

I have a new source confirming my old source!

 

“Erich Hartmann

 

 

Een geboren piloot

 

1e Luitenant Erich Hartmann aan boord van een Messerschmitt Bf 109G, die zijn persoonlijk kenteken draagt: een door een pijl doorboord hart met de naam "Karaya".

 

Erich Hartmann werd geboren op 19 april 1922 in Weissach en groeide op in een familie die door luchtvaart was bezeten. Na het behalen van twee zweefvliegonderscheidingen werd hij op de leeftijd van 14 jaar reeds aangesteld tot instructeur in de zweefvliegafdeling van de Hitlerjugend. In april 1940 nam hij dienst bij de Luftwaffe waar hij werd opgeleid tot jachtpiloot. In maart werd hij naar het Oostfront gestuurd en ingedeeld bij een met Messerschmitt Bf (Me) 109's uitgeruste eenheid.

Een indrukwekende reeks overwinningen

 

Een maand na zijn eerste opdracht behaalde de jonge piloot op 5 november 1942 zijn eerste luchtoverwinning tegen een Stortnovik. Daarop volgde de ene overwinning en de ene onderscheiding na de andere. In augustus 1943 raakte Hartmann gewond en werd hij gevangen genomen. Hij kon echter ontsnappen en naar zijn eenheid terugkeren. In februari 1944 had hij al 200 luchtgevechten gewonnen en zes maanden later waren dat er al 300. Nadat hij was overgestapt op de straaljager Me 262 haalde hij op de laatste dag van de oorlog in Europa zijn 352e tegenstander - een Amerikaans vliegtuig - neer.

De zwarte duivel uit het zuiden

 

De Russen kregen voor elkaar dat de "zwarte duivel uit het zuiden", zoals zij hem noemden, door de Amerikanen aan hen werd uitgeleverd en hij werd veroordeeld tot tien jaar gevangenisstraf. In 1955 kwam Hartmann vrij en hielp in de rang van kolonel mee aan de uitbouw van de jonge luchtmacht van de Bondsrepubliek Duitsland. as in 1970 werd hij uit actieve dienst ontslagen.”