Weta43 Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Actually the article really was about the military re-deploying older, low tech systems to use in COIN work. The longbow comment was by way of an example ( to use your words - the most expensive and most obvious part of the upgrade being removed). It was as much about the marines ordering jeeps in preference to humvees for COIN work & things like the fact that since Rumsfeild said the agreement over which wing of the armed services has sole rights over what type of air-role is no longer in existance, the army & marines expressing interest in bringing back things like the OV-10A Broncos. But it's a blog aimed at the GP... Cheers.
sofrash25 Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 Yeah...well that isn't true at all. Most AH-64D's don't have the radar to begin with, I think only about 1/3rd of them come with the radar. Also, the D has so many more capabilities than the A, it's really no comparison. The radar is just the most expensive and most obvious part of the upgrade, but it is by no means the only reason for the upgrade. I didn't read the article you linked, but that one quote really makes him look like he has no idea what he's talking about. I would say that a D-model with laser guided missiles and no radar is still way more advanced than an A-model. more advanced, more fun to fly, hell of a lot more dangerous. but until the 43 million dollar block III comes out the A will be a better proformer than the D. 25 system upgrades from block III, 22 of them no attack pilot would miss. Most of them are simple, some what pointless upgrades. but the engine, tranny and rotor blade upgrade makes my mouth water.
Dracula Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 First of all would like to say great forum and looking forward to the Sims release. I just had a queastion about the AH-64A model. Were there any glass cockpit upgrades to the A model and is there a varient of the A model that is considered a LB. I am asking because I have only very limited information about the history of the Apache so please forgive me if it is a stupid question. If there is a Longbow version of the A model then could it be the model of choice for the sim, or is the D model THE longbow? If not will this A model have an original non-glass pit or will it be an A model with updated Glass pit? Thx Again
CAT_101st Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 The D is the longbow Home built PC Win 10 Pro 64bit, MB ASUS Z170 WS, 6700K, EVGA 1080Ti Hybrid, 32GB DDR4 3200, Thermaltake 120x360 RAD, Custom built A-10C sim pit, TM WARTHOG HOTAS, Cougar MFD's, 3D printed UFC and Saitek rudders. HTC VIVE VR. https://digitalcombatmercenaries.enjin.com/
Dracula Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 Ok thx Were their any Cockpit updates on the A model giving it Glass MFDs that anyone knows of? Just interested to know nothing big. This is most of the reason I was asking, based on this post i was curious to know if the A implemented here would be an upgraded model that I had been reading about or just the original A model. This is info I read on different models basic upgrades but in smaller context so i would not flood the post. I Highlighted in red the upgrades i was asking about and also if they have any cockpit upgrades for Glass pit as stated above which I have not been able to locate any information on publicly. wo major models of AH-64 Apache are in service in the US Army: the AH-64A and the AH-64D. AH-64A The AH-64A is the original production attack helicopter. It is powered by two GE T700 turbo-shaft engines. The crew sit in tandem in an armored compartment. The helicopter is armed with a 30 mm M230 chain gun that can be slaved to the gunner's helmet-mounted gunsight. The AH-64A carries a range of external stores on its stub-wing pylons, including a mixture of AGM-114 Hellfire anti-tank missiles, Hydra 70 general-purpose unguided 70 mm (2.75 in) rockets, and AIM-92 Stinger anti-aircraft missiles for defense. AH-64B In 1991 after Operation Desert Storm, the AH-64B was a proposed upgrade to 254 AH-64As. The upgrade included new rotor blades, a Global Positioning System (GPS), improved navigaton systems and new radios. Congress approved US$ 82 million to begin the Apache B upgrade. The B program was canceled in 1992.[2] The radio, navigation, and GPS modifications, would later be installed on most A-model Apaches as part of an upgrade program. AH-64C Additional funding from Congress in late 1991 resulted in a program to upgrade AH-64As to an AH-64B+ version. More funding changed the plan to upgrade to AH-64C. The C upgrade would include all changes to be included in the Longbow except for mast mounted radar and newer engines. However, after 1993, the C designation was dropped.[2] The upgrades would go forward. However, since the only difference between the C model and the radar-equipped D model was the radar, which could be moved from one aircraft to another, a decision was made to not distinguish between the two versions, despite the presence or absence of the radar.
leafer Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 Why is this question even asked? As realistic as the people at ED can code would be the unanimous answers around here don't you think? ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
Dracula Posted March 26, 2008 Posted March 26, 2008 Were their any Cockpit updates on the A model giving it Glass MFDs that anyone knows of or updates on the A model that will show in this Sim? From above post?
EvilBivol-1 Posted March 26, 2008 Posted March 26, 2008 Here are WIP screenshots of the A-10 and Apache cockpits under development: http://www.simhq.com/_commentary/all_037e.html - EB [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Nothing is easy. Everything takes much longer. The Parable of Jane's A-10 Forum Rules
Dracula Posted March 26, 2008 Posted March 26, 2008 Evil thank you very much for the Link Appreciate your response. Looks Aws and looking forward to flying it.
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