YoGuRTeLLo Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 I will try to briefly describe the problem. In a helmet, when I fly, for example, on su27, near the ground, the objects in front of me, those in the HUD and in that section of the cockpit that does not open - sweep past very smoothly and clearly. Then left and right when I look through the glass of the cockpit, there all these objects sweep past with an "echo". They triple. every object it becomes ... noisy or something. I use the DCS beta, have a i9900k 4,8, 32gb ram 3200, 2070super and game and windows with all updates on ssd. The settings in game i try any - and hight and low with 90 fps... I try to say - here picture is fine But here picture with "echo" or some very fuzzy and plural number of objects even if it (object) is one. For example, in Il2 everything is smooth and clear, and in general there is no such effect. I don't see this in any other game. I also tried No Man Sky. Everything is fine there too. Only here in the DKS. I flew yesterday on KA50 in a multiplayer game, there was no problem.
TOYKILLA Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 Its an Engine Issue and we all hope that Vulkan will fix it. With Motionreprojection on, it works a lot better for me. Gesendet von meinem SM-G980F mit Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Thrustmaster Warthog SLM - F/A-18 , MFG Crosswind V2 , Cougar MFD`s , HP Reverb , PointCtrl , i9@5,1Ghz/2080Ti, :joystick: DIY 2DOF Motionsimulator with 4Ch Simshaker :joystick: https://www.facebook.com/micsmotionsimulator
eaglecash867 Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 4 questions: 1) Do you have Motion Reprojection turned on or off? 2) What is your SteamVR SS set to? 3) What is your DCS PD set to? 4) Will you post a screenshot of your graphics settings in DCS? EVGA Z690 Classified, Intel i9 12900KS Alder Lake processor, MSI MAG Core Liquid 360R V2 AIO Liquid CPU Cooler, G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series 64GB DDR5 6400 memory, EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 Ultra 24GB video card, Samsung 980PRO 1TB M2.2280 SSD for Windows 10 64-bit OS, Samsung 980PRO 2TB M2.2280 SSD for program files, LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray burner. HOTAS Warthog, Saitek Pedals, HP Reverb G2. Partridge and pear tree pending.
YoGuRTeLLo Posted September 6, 2020 Author Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) 1) I don`t know what this. Have the vr second day) 2) Right now for DCS i use 74% for better FPS, but in 100% is same 3) Dont know what is DCS PD 4) Here Edited September 6, 2020 by YoGuRTeLLo
Motomouse Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 Look in real life out of the side of a fast train or a fast car. The things will quadruple ;-) VIC-20@1.108 MHz, onboard GPU, 5KB RAM, μυωπία goggles, Competition Pro HOTAS
YoGuRTeLLo Posted September 6, 2020 Author Posted September 6, 2020 Look in real life out of the side of a fast train or a fast car. The things will quadruple ;-) what?
YoGuRTeLLo Posted September 6, 2020 Author Posted September 6, 2020 i read and try the Motion Reprojection turn on in file on steam folder. And game be more smoothly but 45 fps is max. yeah... oh...
Motomouse Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) Just do it :-) Not while driving the car of course! Watch the ground near to the fast car or the near surroundings of the fast train. Reality has problems to provide a clear picture in these cases too ;-) Edited September 6, 2020 by Motomouse VIC-20@1.108 MHz, onboard GPU, 5KB RAM, μυωπία goggles, Competition Pro HOTAS
imacken Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 i read and try the Motion Reprojection turn on in file on steam folder. And game be more smoothly but 45 fps is max. yeah... oh... No need to mess with that file any more. Use the WMR tab in SteamVR dashboard to change MP settings now. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Adam Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) Is Motion reprojection the same thing as motion smoothing? I was unable to find anything regarding 'reprojection' in the steam settings. :-( To the O.P. I believe I've had a similar issue. My FPS's were showing 25 but it was stuttering when viewing fast objects at right angles wiz by from the cockpit. I ended up messing with a lot of settings to reduce the load on the GPU which fixed this. (I've got Pixel Density (which is found in DCS VR settings) running at 1.0, and Steam SuperSampling set to 100% now. I've got a 2080 with 64GB RAM and I am only getting 45fps when near the ground. I wonder if it's possible for the GPU or DCS to overwork while the GPU is still calculating higher FPS but the results are still stuttering? Edited September 7, 2020 by Adam
imacken Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 Is Motion reprojection the same thing as motion smoothing? I was unable to find anything regarding 'reprojection' in the steam settings. :-( I think you're looking at Settings in SteamVR desktop. You need to look at the WMR tab of the SteamVR dashboard to get more options. Both there and in the settings file, it is referred to as 'motion reprojection'. I don't know why it says 'motion smoothing' in the desktop app settings. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
eaglecash867 Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 I think you're looking at Settings in SteamVR desktop. You need to look at the WMR tab of the SteamVR dashboard to get more options. Both there and in the settings file, it is referred to as 'motion reprojection'. I don't know why it says 'motion smoothing' in the desktop app settings. "Motion smoothing" has been part of SteamVR for a long time, but it only works with non-WMR HMDs. I just continue to change the code in the WMR settings file. That way I don't have to use those hand controllers. :thumbup: EVGA Z690 Classified, Intel i9 12900KS Alder Lake processor, MSI MAG Core Liquid 360R V2 AIO Liquid CPU Cooler, G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series 64GB DDR5 6400 memory, EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 Ultra 24GB video card, Samsung 980PRO 1TB M2.2280 SSD for Windows 10 64-bit OS, Samsung 980PRO 2TB M2.2280 SSD for program files, LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray burner. HOTAS Warthog, Saitek Pedals, HP Reverb G2. Partridge and pear tree pending.
imacken Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 "Motion smoothing" has been part of SteamVR for a long time, but it only works with non-WMR HMDs. I just continue to change the code in the WMR settings file. That way I don't have to use those hand controllers. :thumbup: I know that, just not sure why it is called motion smoothing in the desktop app and not in either the settings file or the WMR tab. Btw, the ‘motion smoothing’ settings do work for the Reverb. I use the controllers a lot, obviously not for DCS. There are many more settings in the WMR tab that are worth switching on your controllers for. It only takes a minute or two of your life! Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
eaglecash867 Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 It only takes a minute or two of your life! Yeah...but why spend two minutes of my life on something I can accomplish in 10 seconds that suits my individual needs? :thumbup: EVGA Z690 Classified, Intel i9 12900KS Alder Lake processor, MSI MAG Core Liquid 360R V2 AIO Liquid CPU Cooler, G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series 64GB DDR5 6400 memory, EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 Ultra 24GB video card, Samsung 980PRO 1TB M2.2280 SSD for Windows 10 64-bit OS, Samsung 980PRO 2TB M2.2280 SSD for program files, LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray burner. HOTAS Warthog, Saitek Pedals, HP Reverb G2. Partridge and pear tree pending.
imacken Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 Because there are more options in the tab, the settings file is overwritten on updates therefore having to repeat the file editing process over and over, and it is a much more cumbersome method of achieving a lot less. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Adam Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 I think you're looking at Settings in SteamVR desktop. You need to look at the WMR tab of the SteamVR dashboard to get more options. Both there and in the settings file, it is referred to as 'motion reprojection'. I don't know why it says 'motion smoothing' in the desktop app settings. Thanks. Unfortunately I have no idea how to find the WMR settings in the SteamVR dashboard. I've gone into the 'SteamVR room', and clicked on various buttons on the controller which have brought up various 'dashboards' and have been groping around using controllers to try and find WMR settings - but none have a mention to WMR. I have WMR for SteamVR installed in steam (or whatever it's called) - but don't know how to access it. Cheers! I've managed to find a file which references motionreprojection in Steam\Steamapps\common\MixedRealityVRDriver\resources\settings\default.vrsettings The file contains: // Comment out or remove this line to use the SteamVR settings for controlling motion reprojection "motionReprojectionMode" : "disabled",Is it just a matter of commenting this out to switch it "On" to see improvements? ie - make it // Comment out or remove this line to use the SteamVR settings for controlling motion reprojection [b]//[/b] "motionReprojectionMode" : "disabled",
eaglecash867 Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 Here is a good, but a little dated, explanation from Microsoft about how to make the changes in the file. There is a lot more in the file now, but if you just look at how the tell you to change the code for the MotionReprojectionMode setting, that will get you going. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/mixed-reality/enthusiast-guide/using-steamvr-with-windows-mixed-reality EVGA Z690 Classified, Intel i9 12900KS Alder Lake processor, MSI MAG Core Liquid 360R V2 AIO Liquid CPU Cooler, G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series 64GB DDR5 6400 memory, EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 Ultra 24GB video card, Samsung 980PRO 1TB M2.2280 SSD for Windows 10 64-bit OS, Samsung 980PRO 2TB M2.2280 SSD for program files, LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray burner. HOTAS Warthog, Saitek Pedals, HP Reverb G2. Partridge and pear tree pending.
eaglecash867 Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 Because there are more options in the tab, the settings file is overwritten on updates therefore having to repeat the file editing process over and over, and it is a much more cumbersome method of achieving a lot less. To me, mucking around with getting the controllers, turning them on, and trying to find them swinging from my wrists is a lot more cumbersome than changing a single line in a config file. :thumbup: EVGA Z690 Classified, Intel i9 12900KS Alder Lake processor, MSI MAG Core Liquid 360R V2 AIO Liquid CPU Cooler, G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series 64GB DDR5 6400 memory, EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 Ultra 24GB video card, Samsung 980PRO 1TB M2.2280 SSD for Windows 10 64-bit OS, Samsung 980PRO 2TB M2.2280 SSD for program files, LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray burner. HOTAS Warthog, Saitek Pedals, HP Reverb G2. Partridge and pear tree pending.
Adam Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 Sweet. Thanks for the link! I've set "motionReprojectionMode" : "auto", And will see how we go. Thanks!
imacken Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 To me, mucking around with getting the controllers, turning them on, and trying to find them swinging from my wrists is a lot more cumbersome than changing a single line in a config file. :thumbup: Firstly, you only have to do it once. It takes a minute. Doing it the old way has to be repeated over and over after every update. Secondly, you have access to many functions, settings in SteamVR dashboard that you don’t otherwise see. But, clearly, it’s purely personal preference. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
imacken Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 Thanks. Unfortunately I have no idea how to find the WMR settings in the SteamVR dashboard. I've gone into the 'SteamVR room', and clicked on various buttons on the controller which have brought up various 'dashboards' and have been groping around using controllers to try and find WMR settings - but none have a mention to WMR. I have WMR for SteamVR installed in steam (or whatever it's called) - but don't know how to access it. Cheers! I've managed to find a file which references motionreprojection in Steam\Steamapps\common\MixedRealityVRDriver\resources\settings\default.vrsettings When you’re running SteamVR, press down on the controller’s thumbstick to bring up the dashboard. In the bottom left, you’ll see the WMR tab icon. No need for SteamVR Home. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Adam Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 When you’re running SteamVR, press down on the controller’s thumbstick to bring up the dashboard. In the bottom left, you’ll see the WMR tab icon. No need for SteamVR Home. Thanks for the help. I appear to have something different. I have (icons from left to right) - Menu - Desktop - fps VR - Library - Home - Shopping - Reset standing Position - Speaker, and - Settings Going into settings gives me the same settings/menu option that I see if I right-click on SteamVR's icon in the system tray and choose settings. Going into Menu gives me Steam, Exist SteamVR and Exit VR. There's no icons there for Windows Mixed reality. :cry:
imacken Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 Should be between fpsVR and Library. Are you running the beta versions of SteamVR and WMR for SteamVR? Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Adam Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 Should be between fpsVR and Library. Are you running the beta versions of SteamVR and WMR for SteamVR? Oh - maybe that's it. No - I'm running the stable branch of all.
imacken Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 I would highly recommend running betas of both these apps. They are very stable, and you tend to get a lot of features much earlier than the release versions. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
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