AGM-88 HARM implementation FA18/F16

[CaptPickguard]

On 12/29/2024 at 5:49 PM, jojojung said:

Can you please push this to ED? Many people had said this but it is never taken seriously. The direction is clear but not the distance at first radar pulse. But the hornet TD Box is right on the SAM. That is the only thing that is unrealistic and that need to be changed. But ED doesnt care about. They say, give us a prove by documents. But that is physics. If they have in their documents that the TD-Box is right on the SAM exact position when it comes online for a millisecond I will trust them but I this is not possible in terms of physics.
They can ask their SME but still no word. 
In many interviews the Hornet pilots say that is very simplified but cant go into detail. 
But that is no reason to leave it in this way because that has nothing to do with simulation!
The MSI will track the emitter by time and will have great benefits no doubt but a single Hornet has no chance to get the exact location in milliseconds of the emitter when it comes online for the first time.
Direction on the first signal recive - yes. Search this direction with the TGP and finde the sam - yes. Move aspect and get more and more precise location data via triangulation by time with MSI by RWR etc. - yes. But not the way it is implemented by now! 

MSI is strictly an A/A system, so that does not play a part in this at all.

The system that generates all the fancy symbology and powers the TOO mode is the HARM Command Launch Computer (CLC). Like the RWR, it lacks any form of inaccuracy and is bang on perfect all the time. Hopefully someday we can have a physics-based approach like the RWR in the upcoming MiG-29A. Maybe someday they'll take another look at it, maybe when HARM becomes a contributer in A/A with MSI.

[Ramius007]

CEP of HARM, when radar stop emmiting is also wrong, preety good chance to hit other target inside baterry, instead of village few miles away... It's not some super secret weapon, plenty of RL data about HARM performance in such circumstences.

[jojojung]

The SAM Radar gets active first time: If the TD Box in the TOO mode is in the bearing of the emitter but the distance is unclear and the TD Box drifting up and down f.e. IT would be more realistic. But the aTD Box Spot on target in a millisecond with the right bearing and distance, that is unrealistic.

The CLC can get viable data about the distance when the plane changes its aspect and the Radar stays in thats OK but this will need change in the aspect and will need some time. 

vor 1 Stunde schrieb CaptPickguard:

MSI is strictly an A/A system, so that does not play a part in this at all.

The system that generates all the fancy symbology and powers the TOO mode is the HARM Command Launch Computer (CLC). Like the RWR, it lacks any form of inaccuracy and is bang on perfect all the time. Hopefully someday we can have a physics-based approach like the RWR in the upcoming MiG-29A. Maybe someday they'll take another look at it, maybe when HARM becomes a contributer in A/A with MSI.