Mouse Control for Clickable Cockpit On/Off Broken since update 2.5.6.55847

[Wiesel02]

Hi Guys,

 

 

since the latest open beta update the function "activate/deactivate clickable cockpit" (that's possibly what it is called in the english version) seems changed. Don't know if this is a bug or a feature.

 

 

For all modules that previously allowed a mouse button to be assigned to activate/deactivate the cross-hair inside the cockpit for clickable cockpit control, it's the same: It no longer works. And in the control settings that function is red marked now as long as a mouse button (in my case I always had Mouse button 3 set up for this function) is assigned to it and doesn't work any more. It always worked before the update. Except for modules that never offered a mouse button to be assigned to that function, like the F14B.

 

 

I also noticed that assigning a key on the keyboard to that function works without issues, but as long as the mouse is in use for activating/deactivating clickable cockpit controls, it no longer works.

 

 

Does anyone know if this a intended or a bug? Because I always liked the idea to use a mouse button to activate/deactivate cockpit controls via mouse...

 

 

Thanks!

[Flappie]

Hi Wiesel, I've compared both stable and OB for each aircraft I own and I see no difference.

 

Current stable (2.5.6.52437)

Not implemented for AJS37, AV-8B, F-14 pilot and RIO, M-2000, SA342.

 

OK for A-10A, A-10C, C101 EB and CC, F-15C, J-11, Ka-50, Mi-8MTV2, MiG-15bis, MiG-29, Su-25, Su-25T, Su-27, Su-33, TF-51, UH-1H.

 

Current open beta (2.5.6.55960)

Same as current stable.

 

 

It seems all ED modules implement mouse buttons for this command.

 

EDIT: There's a very simple fix actually.

I've noticed all ED modules don't have a "mouse" folder in DCS World\Mods\aircraft\...\Input\. So I renamed the "mouse" folder of the Viggen as "__mouse" and now I do have mouse buttons implemented for this command for the Viggen. :thumbup:

No idea if this fix of mine breaks anything, though.

 

 

 

 

I'll tell Heatblur about this. I let you contact your favorite third party devs.

Edited October 7, 2020 by Flappie

[Wiesel02]

Hi,

thanks for investigating. I checked according to your hints Flappie. Actually, I found that now with 2.5.6.55960 stable version, there is no longer a need for a button assignment for mouse control in the cockpit. I don't know if it's something I never noticed before, but now you can just use a MOUSE_BTN3 double click to activate/deactive clickable cockpit control, even with the F14B. As far as I can see, not mouse control need be set up at all to get this functionality. So in the end, I don't know if it was buggy before and has been fixed now, or if it was just me - I could have missed it.

 

But during the tests I made with several modules, I found something else: Before the latest stable version update I could zoom by using the mouse wheel in the cockpit when mouse control was active. I can zomm now as well, but the type of zoom seems changed. Before, it was a zoom function just like you would expect - zooming in and out from the current head position. Now, using the mouse wheel just moves the basic head position inside the cockpit forward/backwards, but it is not a "zoom" any more. Best visible if you look to left or right side panels and then use the mouse wheel to zoom in or out. Your head moves forward/backward, which is not a "zoom" as I know it. Do you see the same?

[Flappie]

Nice finding! I think I get it:

 

• At first, double-click the middle button to activate the head translation movements (X & Y move the head left-right-up-down and the scroll wheel moves the head forward-backwars on the Z axis)
  
• Then click the middle button once to activate the head rotation movements (usual clickable cockpit off mode, with the scroll wheel acting as a zoom view).
  
• Then double-click middle button to set clickable cockpit back on.
  

Edited October 14, 2020 by Flappie

[Wiesel02]

Hi Flappie,

in return, nice finding! So I checked it out. Test modules: Super Carrier and F14B. Really, it seems to be a mix of double and single MOUSE_BTN3 clicks to switch between on/off clickable cockpit and on/off head movement fwd/bwd or normal zoom.

 

 

But this is new right? I mean, I never noticed this behavior before...

[Flappie]

I can't tell. I barely use the clickable cockpit on/off function.