time for my semi annual features still needed post!

[sublime]

HB Please

Jester > BVR > IFF INTERROGATE

 

Jester using lantirn, even very simply

 

F14B throttle gauges correct (this would make such a difference in how the A and B look.. )

 

Aim54 TTIP flashes when pitbull

 

TWS auto / AIm 54 fixes still needed ( from what I heard..)

 

AI A6s ( you dont have to stick to ai ;) )

 

Forrestal

 

The official HB campaign! remember about a month ago, you guys said you decided to delay it to flesh it out and itd follow the patch in ' a week or two'...??

 

more to come. others chime in as you will?

[BreaKKer]

Jester already IFFs

LANTIRN is on the way

EIG is on the way

AIM-54 blinking TTI is already a thing

The Phoenix guidance bugs are on ED to fix, since HB doesn’t have access to guidance

AI A-6 will likely come with the Forrestal

Forrestal is on the way

 

Most of these things are either already implemented, or WIP. The WIP ones are likely due to the F-14A being the top priority.

[wadman]

HB Please

Jester > BVR > IFF INTERROGATE

 

Jester using lantirn, even very simply

 

F14B throttle gauges correct (this would make such a difference in how the A and B look.. )

 

Aim54 TTIP flashes when pitbull

 

TWS auto / AIm 54 fixes still needed ( from what I heard..)

 

AI A6s ( you dont have to stick to ai ;) )

 

Forrestal

 

The official HB campaign! remember about a month ago, you guys said you decided to delay it to flesh it out and itd follow the patch in ' a week or two'...??

 

more to come. others chime in as you will?

 

Geez - they announced the campaign delay less than 2 weeks ago - NOT "about a month ago"!

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/forum/englis...se#post7142811

 

The announced delay was also for very good reasons - i.e., to improve this FREE add-on. Give it a rest/get some perspective on that item as your "complaint" is unfounded and shows a lack of appreciation for these extras (that they didn't even need to provide).

[Blinde]

EIG being wrong at the B launch is something that I can't understand. Even while it's low on priority, it's nothing else than some textures which can be done in quite little time. Why the hell it wasn't done right at the first place since stuff like RWR is right? Was the A model coming first at the beginning and they changed the focus at some point?

 

Then some other stuff like missing bomb racks...

[wadman]

EIG being wrong at the B launch is something that I can't understand. Even while it's low on priority, it's nothing else than some textures which can be done in quite little time. Why the hell it wasn't done right at the first place since stuff like RWR is right? Was the A model coming first at the beginning and they changed the focus at some point?

 

Then some other stuff like missing bomb racks...

 

... The F14A/B are still in early acess. If folks can't deal with monor details like incorrect EIG's or missing bomb racks, they should have waited to buy the finished product. What we have already is pretty impressive - not perfect: but still pretty awesome compared to the rest. The things you cite have no real impact on using the Tomcat, so I'll give Heatblur the benefit of the doubt that these items will be completed before we exit early access next year. If not, then I won't be happy either :)

[sublime]

On 11/29/2020 at 10:53 AM, BreaKKer said:

Jester already IFFs LANTIRN is on the way EIG is on the way AIM-54 blinking TTI is already a thing The Phoenix guidance bugs are on ED to fix, since HB doesn’t have access to guidance AI A-6 will likely come with the Forrestal Forrestal is on the way Most of these things are either already implemented, or WIP. The WIP ones are likely due to the F-14A being the top priority.

Jester IFFS on command? how?  If youre talking about the audio cue, no, he doesnt always. Ive flown the f14 ALOT in game, and in hectic scenarios, when youre STTing several different targets to try to hear him say 'you locked a buddy!' or not, he DOES NOT, repeat, DOES NOT, always say it.  I strongly  think if theres a lot going on the sound file gets overlapped and not heard or  something.  theres still a need for it, as also it should then be changed on the TID repeater or radar as a bogey.

The TTI blinkings a thing? I havent seen it.

do you always type as one big sentence? it makes it hard to adress several issues. TTI is in, you misunderstand. WHEN THE AIM 54 GOES PITBULL IRL THE TTIP STARTS FLASHING. THIS IS NOT IN.  Please show me reference to it being in if Im wrong! Id love to know I imagined today!

Most of the things I mentioned arent features I want to see, its FEATURES STILL NEEDED.

as far as you just going 'on the way, on the way' buddy.. look. Ive been on these same forums since release too. All the 'on the way' things have been on the way almost 2 years. It needs to be brought up repeatedly and asked about. point blank. These arent 'extras' these were things that are either just frankly there in the plane or we were explicitly told we would have.

And if you search  'Jester IFF' and my name youll see that HB is considering my idea or was on IFF. so no, jester doesnt do IFF, not the way I mean. Theres a big honking button where the rios nose eye level is next to the DDD for IFF. someone thought that its important. I dont want a audio cue that may or may on play as it. otherwise I want an option where jester will either A refuse to fire on friendlies, or B keep saying 'you have a friendly locked sir!"  as it is, you get one warning, in a multi high threat enviroment maybe none. If you STT a group of targets he eventually will miss one, if theres missiles and stuff anywhere he may not say it either . I learned this the hard way in dozens of DCE campaign hours

[sublime]

On 11/29/2020 at 12:20 PM, Blinde said:

EIG being wrong at the B launch is something that I can't understand. Even while it's low on priority, it's nothing else than some textures which can be done in quite little time. Why the hell it wasn't done right at the first place since stuff like RWR is right? Was the A model coming first at the beginning and they changed the focus at some point? Then some other stuff like missing bomb racks...

I get it too. I dont understand to blatant hostility to constructive criticism either..

[sublime]

On 11/29/2020 at 11:18 AM, wadman said:

HB Please Jester > BVR > IFF INTERROGATE Jester using lantirn, even very simply F14B throttle gauges correct (this would make such a difference in how the A and B look.. ) Aim54 TTIP flashes when pitbull TWS auto / AIm 54 fixes still needed ( from what I heard..) AI A6s ( you dont have to stick to ai ;) ) Forrestal The official HB campaign! remember about a month ago, you guys said you decided to delay it to flesh it out and itd follow the patch in ' a week or two'...?? more to come. others chime in as you will?

Geez - they announced the campaign delay less than 2 weeks ago - NOT "about a month ago"! https://forums.eagle.ru/forum/englis...se#post7142811 The announced delay was also for very good reasons - i.e., to improve this FREE add-on. Give it a rest/get some perspective on that item as your "complaint" is unfounded and shows a lack of appreciation for these extras (that they didn't even need to provide).

I dont understand the blatant hostility to constructive criticism.

they did NOT announce the delay less than 2 weeks ago, they mentioned before the A release the campaign was going to be delayed. And complaint? I just asked for information.  

And free? No its NOT A FREE ADD ON. I paid my 80 bucks for the F14 when it was released. I have no asked for ANYTHING that wasnt advertised as part of the product.  So dont give me that ungrateful stuff, please see yourself somewhere else.  The campaigns we have now are ALL THIRD PARTY. HB ALWAYS said the A6, Forrestal, campaign, and everything else CAME WITH THE F14 MODULE.  I PURCHASED MY MODULE LEGALLY. So no, its not an 'extra' and NO, it doesnt show a lack of appreciation and nor do I need perspective.  Rather I suggest perhaps you lack perspective as your head seems to  be stuck up something.

[sublime]

On 11/29/2020 at 1:30 PM, wadman said:

EIG being wrong at the B launch is something that I can't understand. Even while it's low on priority, it's nothing else than some textures which can be done in quite little time. Why the hell it wasn't done right at the first place since stuff like RWR is right? Was the A model coming first at the beginning and they changed the focus at some point? Then some other stuff like missing bomb racks...

... The F14A/B are still in early acess. If folks can't deal with monor details like incorrect EIG's or missing bomb racks, they should have waited to buy the finished product. What we have already is pretty impressive - not perfect: but still pretty awesome compared to the rest. The things you cite have no real impact on using the Tomcat, so I'll give Heatblur the benefit of the doubt that these items will be completed before we exit early access next year. If not, then I won't be happy either :)

Again please leave my thread. I have no use for blind fanbois who take constructive criticism which HB is adult about and handles well and uses, and turns it into 'yOuR nOt ApPreCiAtiVe EnOuGh'  'yOuR jUsT cOmPlAiNinG, I DoNt cArE iT wAs SolD aS pArT oF tHe mOdUlE hOw DaRe YoU tAlK oN tHe FoRuM!'

He mentioned a good point - it is sorta odd they went with that choice. Is he demanding anything? NO! Is he being mean? no! Hes just making a post.. in a message forum. (what we are here for)

IT seems YOU cant handle a post pointing out things that need to be adressed.   Considering you have 23 posts and going strong, and Ive been on these forums years, Ive actually have had brief forum interactions with including HB developers.  and theyre not aholes about asking questions, and Im not even askaing for ridiculous crap like an F14D with sparrowhawk  NOW.

 

As to the other poster - show me the changelog that shows Aim54s flash when pitbull on TTIP. I have current tracks that prove they dont.

[wadman]

2 hours ago, sublime said:

I dont understand the blatant hostility to constructive criticism.

they did NOT announce the delay less than 2 weeks ago, they mentioned before the A release the campaign was going to be delayed. And complaint? I just asked for information.  

And free? No its NOT A FREE ADD ON. I paid my 80 bucks for the F14 when it was released. I have no asked for ANYTHING that wasnt advertised as part of the product.  So dont give me that ungrateful stuff, please see yourself somewhere else.  The campaigns we have now are ALL THIRD PARTY. HB ALWAYS said the A6, Forrestal, campaign, and everything else CAME WITH THE F14 MODULE.  I PURCHASED MY MODULE LEGALLY. So no, its not an 'extra' and NO, it doesnt show a lack of appreciation and nor do I need perspective.  Rather I suggest perhaps you lack perspective as your head seems to  be stuck up something.

It's not hostility - it's recognition that your $80 purchase got you "early access" - maybe you missed that part?  My perspective is it's a waste of time to pester Heatblur about stuff they've indicated will be delivered by the time they exit early access next year (as they've indicated they expect to do).  They are working on things based on what they see as the highest priority first and I see no reason to be concerned about them not delivering on promises at this point.

 

Also, my comment on "free" add-on was more around the obvious lengths they are going to to give us really good content vs other modules when they could just push out basic campaigns and be done with it.  I'd rather they take however long they need to in order do it right as the extra efforts they are extending are not really directly compensated by our initial purchase.  For the content we have already and will still get, $80 was a bargain in my opinion.  I'd rather see them focus on bug fixes than the other stuff for now - YMMV.

 

 

Edited December 1, 2020 by wadman

[sublime]

8 hours ago, wadman said:

It's not hostility - it's recognition that your $80 purchase got you "early access" - maybe you missed that part?  My perspective is it's a waste of time to pester Heatblur about stuff they've indicated will be delivered by the time they exit early access next year (as they've indicated they expect to do).  They are working on things based on what they see as the highest priority first and I see no reason to be concerned about them not delivering on promises at this point.

 

Also, my comment on "free" add-on was more around the obvious lengths they are going to to give us really good content vs other modules when they could just push out basic campaigns and be done with it.  I'd rather they take however long they need to in order do it right as the extra efforts they are extending are not really directly compensated by our initial purchase.  For the content we have already and will still get, $80 was a bargain in my opinion.  I'd rather see them focus on bug fixes than the other stuff for now - YMMV.

 

 

Ok wadman, and youre entitled to your perspective.

Let me put it this way - why would HB - open a thread about reactions to the new module? Why has heatblur ( and i can prove it ) asked the community more than once what we would like?  I say its QUITE IMPORTANT to mention these things. Furthermore, its important to mention them to make sure they arent let go or forgotten.  I dont know how long you have been around, but though not heatblur, some of us have been burned BADLY on module promises.

now - that said - the stuff I mentioned werent demands. I wasnt rude.  THIS ISNT EVEN THE FIRST THREAD LIKE THIS.  Exactly what is wrong with trying to compile a list of either known issues, etc.  You do realize threads like this is how we get bones  sometimes as well right?  

Did I ever say 80 wasnt a bargain? Its my favorite module! I actually troll the f18 pilots, when people ask what module and this isnt listed I name this! However, you have no more right than I to opine.  trying to portray my post as 'whining' or 'demands' is BS and wrong, because its simply a lie!

Its almost 2 years on, and HB is openly talking about glove vanes not keeping them from leaving E/A -- how am I out of line asking to see or hear about the forrestal or A6?

Next - 'pester heatblur' Wtf are you on about wadman? Did i tag anyone? Am I calling or dm'ing HB?  Give it a rest, ITS A  FORUM FOR THE GAME THE GAME WILL BE DISCUSSED. NEXT!

 

They *HAVE NOT* said the stuff will come at the end of E/A. Prove it! They havent said when at all! Thats how they operate, they dont promise at x date. they may at best give guesses. They NEVER that I read said 'a6 and and forrestal will come at the very end of E/A'  And if they had, it still doesnt adress jester>bvr>IFF Int (which Ironmike said they were going to look into, all who are going to say 'jester already does that', if he did than why does ironmike say he'll look into it?) TTIP doesnt flash when AIm54 is pitbull, we have the wrong engine gauges (this alone would really help HB, itd just make the 2 f14 cockpits pretty different which would excite ppl) etc etc see my post. Oh and jester not being able to drop LGBs at this point - Im always trying to be fair to HB but this is a little crazy now. Again, going on 2 years - you cant use em in MP unlesss you have a RIO, and in SP its damned hard without a lot of practice and you cannot do it in a high threat enviroment without the mod HB actively tried to suppress.  thats fine, but they either need to admit they cant and PROMOTE the mod that offered a front seat solution, or at least stop suppressing it, or fix it!  it doesnt have to be perfect, and im sure theres a way to 'cheat' where a bomb dropped if you say 'jester target primary, or secondary' and perhaps you could mark them on F10 what you wanted, that the gam would cheat and if jester says lasing or whatever the bomb would hit 99.1% of times or some %%%%.  Id settle for a cheat is what Im saying, Im not a developer, so I dont want to argue about the intricacies of my idea, it was a off the cuff statement. 

 

Next, 'you see no reason to be concerned' Neither do I! Did my post have 'HB IS NOT DELIVERING!!!'? Nope.  Did it imply nothing was coming? Noooope.  Im not concerned either.  THIS IS THE F14 FORUM IM ALLOWED TO DISCUSS THE MODULE. WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND SIR?

As far as you prefering bug fixes, we are all entitled to our opinions. Regardlesss, the LGB is more or less a bug. The engine gauge being incorrect is.... a bug basically. The ttip is indeed a bug. Campaign, a6, and forrestal are not bugs.  However, youre one man.  would you like it if I got my way over yours everytime? I bet not. Thats why its my OPINION, and YOUR OPINION, what HB does. And being rude to someone because they post something that doesnt align with your world view of what HB should do is ridiculous, especially when Im not demanding anything.  

Furthermore, the F14A was released the 10th.  you said 2 days ago it was less than 2 weeks.  how does your math work on that? HB may have revisited the issue, but I remember for sure when the F14a was coming up to be released, right before or the day of release they mentioned they pushed the campaign back 'a week or two'

so no, it was three weeks. and what a piddling thing to point out really :eye roll:

So yes, my mileage does vary.  Also HB has pointed out before that the dudes with them fixing bugs arent the only people they have, and not the same people always as content creators. So who is to say they cant do both? I mean they fixed bugs all year and got the A out??  Id rather not have a hostile relationship with you, but you seriously seriously need to reread your posts and perhaps you should take your own advice about reflecting on what you said and how.

Edited December 1, 2020 by sublime