Request: Generic, multiplayer-suitable paintschemes

[xvii-Dietrich]

So, it seems the F4U is getting closer (it has it's own subforum now!). Great news. Definitely looking forward to it! However, I have a suggestion.

I would like to please make a request to the developers when putting together the official paintschemes ("skins") for the upcoming F4U Corsair. Many of the skins for other aircraft are often hard-baked, famous cases, often representing aces and with their victories, markings and signature art indelibly fixed.

 

While this is very cool for single-player missions, these are not so good for multiplayer.

 

For example ...   
 

Here, not only do you not want everyone looking like the lead ace, but also there is the very practical problem of identifying who-is-who.

 

 

As a result, could I suggest that you consider the possibility of some "common" skins. These are the absolute-standard painschemes, without special markings hard-coded. And, instead, they could have their numbers configured in the mission editor.

 

 

This allows the mission builder the ability to put in hundreds of distinct aircraft, and reliably let the players distinguish among them.

Ideally such a common skin would be available for each of the major users for the F4U Corsair (USN, USMC, RNFAA, RNZAF, et al.).

 

I don't know exactly what those paintschemes would be (I am no F4U history expert... perhaps someone else could comment). However I'm just putting this idea forward for use server admins, and in reflection on the experiences we've had with the FW 190 A8 and P-47D.

Thanks for your consideration. I am very much looking for to this module!

[Hiromachi]

A list of generic skins desired to appear in game would be nice. I could forward that to Rudel. 

[Cunctator]

Since we will be flying the Corsair predominantly against German aircraft for some time the paint scheme used by the FAA for Europe based Corsairs would be nice.

 

Colors:

Upper surfaces: Sea Grey/Dark Slate Grey

Underside: Sky

[Mogster]

UK FAA skins would be great, and make a lot of sense.

[xvii-Dietrich]

For the UK skins (Fleet Air Arm), please make sure the correct markings are used.

ED have not got either the Mk.IX nor DH98 roundels correct for the RAF (see, e.g. https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/259214-mosquito-skins/?do=findComment&comment=4544257 ) Perhaps this is something that @DD_Fenrir or @Rockape could advise on?

Edited January 20, 2021 by xvii-Dietrich

[Hiromachi]

If there is similar info on FAA roundels and other markings, I will gladly pass it to the team. 

[sushy73]

[Rockape]

On 1/20/2021 at 5:30 PM, Hiromachi said:

If there is similar info on FAA roundels and other markings, I will gladly pass it to the team. 

Hi... oops missed this post for some reason..

In general the FAA and RAF guidelines are one and the same, as they were Air Ministry orders/Instructions to standardize colours and markings and even camo-schemes  across all services.

 

Hope this helps.

[Dusty44]

[h3pilot]

The F4U-1D Corsairs used by the USN, USMC, and RNZAF were only painted in two basic patterns.

1) The USN/USMC started using the tri-color scheme in February of 1943, so the first F4U-1Ds would have been delivered in this scheme.

- Non-Spectral Sea Blue (ANA 607)

- Intermediate Blue (ANA 608)

- Insignia White (ANA 601)

 

On 28 June 1943 an ALNAV directed an Insignia Red border around the national insignia.

On 29 June 1943, Army-Navy Aeronautical Specification AN-1-9a directed the same red border on all Army and Navy/Marine aircraft by 1 September 1943.

This new national insignia was very short lived!  Even before the directed completion date, the red border was rescinded.

On 31 July 1943, Commander 3rd Fleet directed that the red border be removed from all aircraft in the South Pacific.

On 14 August 1943, Army-Navy Aeronautical Specification AN-1-9b directed that the red border be replaced by an Insignia Blue (ANA 605) border on all US aircraft.

 

RNZAF Corsairs were delivered in the same paint schemes as USN/USMC Corsairs.  I'm not sure if the RNZAF national markings used the same Insignia Blue as the US.  

 

2)  Starting in Oct 1944, USN/USMC fighters were painted Gloss Sea Blue (ANA 623) overall, except a strip in front of the windscreen along the top of the fuselage and cowling, which was still Non-Spectral Sea Blue (ANA 607) to reduce glare for the pilot.

 

 

There are LOTS of models, toys, and even real aircraft at airshows and on film/tv that are not accurate colors.  The most common error is not using the correct Sea Blue.  I have seen many cases of brighter blues being used.  Some are almost Royal Blue.  The correct Sea Blue is pretty dark and has a hint of green in the right light.

 

 

Overall Sea Blue scheme

https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/museums/nnam/explore/collections/aircraft/f/fg-1d-corsair.html