Rift S or Reverb G2

[X_legio]

I am an happy owner of a Rift S, but I have a good chance to sell my at good price and buy a new Reverb G2 that is in offer here.

The difference is about 300€ so I am thinking to do the step on, what do you think ? I use the VR only with DCS, XP11 and FS2020.

My specs are

 

Ryzen 5 3600

RTX 3070

32Gb ram

Dcs on a PCIex m.2 disk

 

Waiting for some advice....

[Arbitrary]

The added resolution is likely worth it. I started with G1, but others I play with upgraded from Rift and others to G2 and they were blown away with the improved resolution.

[X_legio]

So we are 1 to 0 for the G2...

 

Waiting some other suggestions.

Edited February 7, 2021 by X_legio

[streakeagle]

From a pure visual quality point, there is no comparison. The G2 looks dramatically better than the Rift S. I also found that my PC was able to run the G2 at comparable frame rates despite the higher resolution/visual clarity. Having said that, my G2 had to be sent back to HP for a warranty replacement after it started disconnecting from the PC when I moved my head. Support claimed it would be a quick turn around, but apparently they are out of stock, so I am without my G2 until an estimated shipping date of March 12... a full month and a half after being shipped to them. I also don't care for the Windows Mixed Reality/SteamVR combo required to use the G2. That's more overhead and a greater chance of software issues. Meanwhile, my Rift S is working as well as it ever did after countless hours of use, but they really want you to link it to a Facebook account.

 

I bought my son a Quest 2 for Christmas, so I have borrowed it for now. Using the Quest 2 has its issues because it is not natively a PC VR headset. You have to give it permission to connect to the PC, then choose to use the link every time you start it up. When you take it off, it very quickly goes into a standby mode. When I have left it off too long, it has kicked me out of link mode while still in DCS and will not reconnect with DCS without restarting DCS. Sometimes I have had disconnect issues similar to the G2, perhaps because I have saturated the USB 3 connection with max frame rate and high visual quality. But it may have been the Oculus software and/or the video driver? After going to the latest Oculus beta and nVidia updates, it hasn't disconnected yet. The Quest 2 cannot match the clarity of the G2, but it looks a lot better than the Rift S. The image quality, cost effectiveness, and stand alone capability make the Quest 2 a credible choice over the G2. There are two other consideration for the Quest 2: the battery and the head strap. The headset battery does get depleted while in use despite being connected to the PC via USB 3. It is a slow bleed, but it does discharge. If you were going to use the Quest 2 extensively, it might be wise to get the external battery pack. The head strap that comes with the Quest 2 isn't the most comfortable. There are many choices for upgrading it to be comparable to other VR headsets, including Oculus own "pro" strap. It may be best to buy Oculus combined battery/pro strap package to address both problems at the same time. I didn't bother with the battery, but supposedly it provides better balance by adding weight to the back. Even with the pro strap, the Quest 2 doesn't fit my face quite as comfortably as the Rift S and G2. Perhaps because it was made with kids in mind? If I wasn't going to go back to the G2 in a month or so, I might invest in one of the aftermarket facial interfaces to go for better comfort.

 

[Dragon1-1]

Do note that Facebook has some very disturbing policies in place regarding Oculus accounts. I would steer clear from Rift S based just on that. However, if that works for you, it might not be a factor. Also, there are some antitrust lawsuits in both US and Germany over the aforementioned policies (among other things), which might change this. Either way, don't buy anything on Oculus store before that fracas is over.

 

I'm getting the G2 as soon as I have the money for it. Which will be soon, I hope.

[X_legio]

23 minuti fa, streakeagle ha scritto:

From a pure visual quality point, there is no comparison. The G2 looks dramatically better than the Rift S. I also found that my PC was able to run the G2 at comparable frame rates despite the higher resolution/visual clarity. Having said that, my G2 had to be sent back to HP for a warranty replacement after it started disconnecting from the PC when I moved my head. Support claimed it would be a quick turn around, but apparently they are out of stock, so I am without my G2 until an estimated shipping date of March 12... a full month and a half after being shipped to them. I also don't care for the Windows Mixed Reality/SteamVR combo required to use the G2. That's more overhead and a greater chance of software issues. Meanwhile, my Rift S is working as well as it ever did after countless hours of use, but they really want you to link it to a Facebook account.

 

I bought my son a Quest 2 for Christmas, so I have borrowed it for now. Using the Quest 2 has its issues because it is not natively a PC VR headset. You have to give it permission to connect to the PC, then choose to use the link every time you start it up. When you take it off, it very quickly goes into a standby mode. When I have left it off too long, it has kicked me out of link mode while still in DCS and will not reconnect with DCS without restarting DCS. Sometimes I have had disconnect issues similar to the G2, perhaps because I have saturated the USB 3 connection with max frame rate and high visual quality. But it may have been the Oculus software and/or the video driver? After going to the latest Oculus beta and nVidia updates, it hasn't disconnected yet. The Quest 2 cannot match the clarity of the G2, but it looks a lot better than the Rift S. The image quality, cost effectiveness, and stand alone capability make the Quest 2 a credible choice over the G2. There are two other consideration for the Quest 2: the battery and the head strap. The headset battery does get depleted while in use despite being connected to the PC via USB 3. It is a slow bleed, but it does discharge. If you were going to use the Quest 2 extensively, it might be wise to get the external battery pack. The head strap that comes with the Quest 2 isn't the most comfortable. There are many choices for upgrading it to be comparable to other VR headsets, including Oculus own "pro" strap. It may be best to buy Oculus combined battery/pro strap package to address both problems at the same time. I didn't bother with the battery, but supposedly it provides better balance by adding weight to the back. Even with the pro strap, the Quest 2 doesn't fit my face quite as comfortably as the Rift S and G2. Perhaps because it was made with kids in mind? If I wasn't going to go back to the G2 in a month or so, I might invest in one of the aftermarket facial interfaces to go for better comfort.

 

I have a friends of mine with the Quest2 , the difference between the rift s and the quest 2 is not so much, the head strap is really not confortable, my friend bought the improved one that was dead in 10 days.... Another Oculus is not for me, if I will go again with oculus I will take the quest3. But the gain between the s and the gear2 don't worth the money, IMHO.

 

[streakeagle]

I had to spend some time adjusting the software to get the Quest 2 to look good. But the difference between the Quest 2 and Rift S is significant when you get the settings right. There are three aspects I look at to judge the difference:

1. Screen door effect. The Rift S was a step up from the CV1, but I can still clearly see the pixels.

2. Displays/instruments. Again, the Rift S was a step up from the CV1, but the Quest 2 is another step up.

3. Virtual desktop. The virtual desktop is much more legible, in fact almost perfectly smooth fonts, compared to the Rift S.

 

The G2 is still better, but in the absence of the G2, the Quest 2 is a far better substitute than the Rift S in terms of graphics quality. I agree that the stock head strap is uncomfortable. Even with the "pro" headstrap, I don't like the pressure the headset puts on my face. The Rift S and G2 are far more comfortable out of the box.

 

But the Quest 2 has three things on the G2:

1. Unbeatable price for the quality of the hardware (though the need to buy a good link cable and addon head strap partially cancel this advantage).

2. It is readily available, not out of stock with deliveries delayed by a month or more.

3. I haven't had any problems with the hardware and haven't had to do any kind of warranty return.

 

[X_legio]

2 ore fa, streakeagle ha scritto:

I had to spend some time adjusting the software to get the Quest 2 to look good. But the difference between the Quest 2 and Rift S is significant when you get the settings right. There are three aspects I look at to judge the difference:

1. Screen door effect. The Rift S was a step up from the CV1, but I can still clearly see the pixels.

2. Displays/instruments. Again, the Rift S was a step up from the CV1, but the Quest 2 is another step up.

3. Virtual desktop. The virtual desktop is much more legible, in fact almost perfectly smooth fonts, compared to the Rift S.

 

The G2 is still better, but in the absence of the G2, the Quest 2 is a far better substitute than the Rift S in terms of graphics quality. I agree that the stock head strap is uncomfortable. Even with the "pro" headstrap, I don't like the pressure the headset puts on my face. The Rift S and G2 are far more comfortable out of the box.

 

But the Quest 2 has three things on the G2:

1. Unbeatable price for the quality of the hardware (though the need to buy a good link cable and addon head strap partially cancel this advantage).

2. It is readily available, not out of stock with deliveries delayed by a month or more.

3. I haven't had any problems with the hardware and haven't had to do any kind of warranty return.

 

Here the G2 is available, no problem with numbers, and cost around 620€

[TonyG]

I had the Rift S for 18 months, switched to the G2 in early December.  No comparison for me, the G2 is better in every way.  I prefer the PC interface, the fit, clarity, sound...all better than the Rift S.  Got rid of my Rift S after a couple of weeks of owning the G2 and haven’t looked back. 
 

edit to add: The Q2 was never on

my radar.  I don’t like the Facebook approach. As a day 1 owner of the CV1, I had big hopes for FBs acquisition of Oculus, but they obviously wanted it for other reasons.  Was happy to uninstall the Oculus software after having on my computer since my DK2 purchase in Sept of 2015. 

Edited February 7, 2021 by TonyG

[dburne]

1 hour ago, TonyG said:

I had the Rift S for 18 months, switched to the G2 in early December.  No comparison for me, the G2 is better in every way.  I prefer the PC interface, the fit, clarity, sound...all better than the Rift S.  Got rid of my Rift S after a couple of weeks of owning the G2 and haven’t looked back. 
 

edit to add: The Q2 was never on

my radar.  I don’t like the Facebook approach. As a day 1 owner of the CV1, I had big hopes for FBs acquisition of Oculus, but they obviously wanted it for other reasons.  Was happy to uninstall the Oculus software after having on my computer since my DK2 purchase in Sept of 2015. 

 

 

I am with you there.

[nobuttons]

15 hours ago, X_legio said:

I am an happy owner of a Rift S, but I have a good chance to sell my at good price and buy a new Reverb G2 that is in offer here.

The difference is about 300€ so I am thinking to do the step on, what do you think ? I use the VR only with DCS, XP11 and FS2020.

My specs are

 

Ryzen 5 3600

RTX 3070

32Gb ram

Dcs on a PCIex m.2 disk

 

Waiting for some advice....

 

G2 is excellent for seated VR, and an absolute steal at the price. Compared to the Rift S you will feel like you have double the resolution. It has a rapid fall off from the super crisp focus area, but the rest of your FOV will be as good or better than your Rift.

 

It has some limitations on the controllers, which won't bother you at all of you spend most time in DCS.

[X_legio]

So at the end I will give a try with the G2, I have a 30 days try so I can manage it....

Someone can give me an advice for a functional driver with a RTX3070 ? The last release is not always the best release....