Nyogel 767 destroyed my throttle

[suhast]

Hello after 8 months of lubing my HOTAS cougar throttle with nyogel, I have noticed a decrease in resistance no matter how I turned the tension wheel. I opened it and discovered that the brake pad was completely destroyed, there were only little fragments, the most part had disappeared.

Has anyone experienced this? I think it is not plastic safe.

[norbot]

I‘m using the HOTAS Warthog, so I don‘t know how the Cougar is built. The mechanics of the throttle is based on friction, so I don‘t think greasing it with nyogel or anything else is a good idea.

[Fri13]

1 hour ago, suhast said:

Hello after 8 months of lubing my HOTAS cougar throttle with nyogel, I have noticed a decrease in resistance no matter how I turned the tension wheel. I opened it and discovered that the brake pad was completely destroyed, there were only little fragments, the most part had disappeared.

Has anyone experienced this? I think it is not plastic safe.

 

It depends what material the brake pad really was about. 

You can always contact them to ask that what plastics it can resolve: https://www.nyelubricants.com

 

After all it is used in the electronics industry on the plastic parts, like volume knobs, sliders and such as the dampening grease.

 

 

[Fri13]

41 minutes ago, norbot said:

I‘m using the HOTAS Warthog, so I don‘t know how the Cougar is built. The mechanics of the throttle is based on friction, so I don‘t think greasing it with nyogel or anything else is a good idea.

 

The dampening greases has two effect, one is that they lubricate so there is less friction. And the mechanical friction is what is used on these cheap gaming devices to give "resistance" for movement. But what makes dampening greases different from a lubricating greases, is that they will dampen the movement, causing resistance in them. This way you do not wear the plastic parts as plastic against plastic or plastic against metal, but you have the grease between the surfaces and while the grease needs to "squeeze" and move, it is resisting that movement and cause so on dampening. 

 

 

So while you are removing the mechanical friction, you get dampened smooth motion instead. But, you will lose the adjustment capability as you can not add mechanical friction anymore such a amount.

 

But, if you have a large surface area to apply that dampening grease, it will give good fluid movement with very nice force. 

[Weegie]

I can only comment on the Hawg throttle which I liberally applied Nyogel too

 

I found the friction wheel action is not as effective as prior to application, BUT the throttle levers are now Buttery smooth.

 

IMHO there's more than sufficent friction for my needs, although, that is a subjective opinion & I'm really glad I did it.

 

Sorry to hear though about your bad experience with Nyogel

[xoxen]

On 2/28/2021 at 10:37 AM, suhast said:

Hello after 8 months of lubing my HOTAS cougar throttle with nyogel, I have noticed a decrease in resistance no matter how I turned the tension wheel. I opened it and discovered that the brake pad was completely destroyed, there were only little fragments, the most part had disappeared.

Has anyone experienced this? I think it is not plastic safe.

The small pads are more rubber than plastic. To me it sounds like Nyogel seems to be incompatible with rubber. I read a lot of posts and all said it is plastic safe. Maybe there is a different behavior on rubber, like mentioned. Good news are, that you can buy the rubber parts as spares from Thrustmaster. I also got a small PDF displaying how to replace them. I don´t remember the price, but it wasn´t that much.

I´m using the grease out of this thread: Link to Molykote Post I used it at the rubber pads as well but it didn´t improve the movement for a long time but at least stopped the wear I did experience before (small rubber particles inside of the housing).

Edited March 10, 2021 by xoxen

[suhast]

printed my own pad replacement. I was really excited by the winwing F16 throttle but the RNG ancoder plus hat is a dealbreaker for me. HOTAS is a better representation of the original f16 throttle.

[Dudikoff]

Do you mind posting the 3D file for this perhaps? I have a Cougar throttle somewhere that I've lubed with same Nyogel a year ago, so presume the rubber bits are also toast by now.

Presumably the 3D printed parts will be resistant to Nyogel and a friend can print me these for free..

Edited March 15, 2022 by Dudikoff

[suhast]

C.stl

[Winter]

@Dudikoff and @suhast, how well do the new plastic pad and Nyogel 767 perform?

I've got a Cougar Throttle I'm thinking of modding the same, thanks to your file above suhast.

[Dudikoff]

I haven't actually tried it yet, because I moved and the Cougar throttle is in the old place still (I use WinWing throttle currently). Hope to get a chance to try it next time I go back there.