mikoyan Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 what about the iran, egipth,cuban pilots, they were involved in several fights in the air. It will be cool to se the other side of the story and not a biased part of the story. Why they don't have any german or russian or Vietnamese ace on this show?
mikoyan Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 if it is for American public only it should be called american aces and not dogfights
mikoyan Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Because it was a Rafale, not a Su-35. Other than that though you're pretty much right about that maneuver being useless. A cobra is the last thing an f-22 would do. It rarely works to get you out of trouble. I don't think than an f-22 would beat an f-35 in a dogfight that easily since the f-35 has an improved twr and 3d vector control which is better than the 2d of the raptor in the yaw axis. Actually the F-35 isn't anywhere near as maneuverable as the F-22 - its thrust vectoring is in the VTOL arena only - the F-22 on the other hand makes use of it in all maneuver regimes. Don't know of too many modern A2A aces from other countries - except maybe israelis? forgot that it was a rafale, I saw long ago... and about the f-35 maneuverability, we don't know yet since it is in testing, of course it is not going to be as good s the f-22 but for the money invested, it should at least be better than an f-16 and close to the super-hornet if not better.
GGTharos Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Yes, it is supposed to be a pretty good replacement for the F-16 with similar but better performance, according to hearsay. forgot that it was a rafale, I saw long ago... and about the f-35 maneuverability, we don't know yet since it is in testing, of course it is not going to be as good s the f-22 but for the money invested, it should at least be better than an f-16 and close to the super-hornet if not better. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
RedTiger Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 I thought the F-35 was supposed to be F-16 v2.0 until I saw the fully loaded combat weight. Can you say bomb truck? I'm sure it will out-perform the F-16 in all areas of air to ground, stealth, BVR, etc, but I'm skeptical about its guns-only dogfight capability. It will have off-bore Aim-9x to help it though.
Manawar Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 (edited) "There are 2 types of fighters....Steath and targets" F22 - Raptor ....The most dominate fighter on the planet! :thumbup: (There is so much about this bird that people will never know, and bandits that go against it will never be able to speak about it) Edited August 25, 2008 by Manawar [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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