F-15, no closure on HUD on guns mode

[lev-kusanagi]

Hi ED,

 

The 15 has closure on HUD when a missile is selected, but not in guns mode. This is an important number in BFM (for which the 15 is an attractive choice, given that its flight model is quite accurate despite it not being a FF plane).

Displayed as a small number in the radar MFD, it not only is awkwardly located, but it is so small and close to the border of the grid when in typical BFM range that it's extremely hard to read.

 

I understand you guys are busy with a million high priority features and bugs, but if you get a few spare cycles, this would make a big difference for us Eagle fans in the BFM community.

 

Best,

LK

Edited May 11, 2021 by lev-kusanagi

[GGTharos]

I just checked the -34, the Vc cue is there on the HuD as it is for missiles.   The only case for it to not be there is using the LCOS sight (no radar lock) and we don't have this in DCS.

@BIGNEWY easily verified that this is a missing part in the F-15C HuD for the radar directed gunsight.

[BIGNEWY]

I will mention it to the team, but it may not have been a planned feature for our F-15. 

 

thanks

 

[GGTharos]

Ok, just FYI it's not a new feature, it's already displayed on the HuD with missiles ... for some reason ED chose not to display it in gun mode.

[lev-kusanagi]

8 hours ago, GGTharos said:

I just checked the -34, the Vc cue is there on the HuD as it is for missiles.   The only case for it to not be there is using the LCOS sight (no radar lock) and we don't have this in DCS.

@BIGNEWY easily verified that this is a missing part in the F-15C HuD for the radar directed gunsight.

Thank you GGTharos! Like you say, the feature is already coded and it would only have to be enabled in gun mode. I hope ED can make it happen!

[BIGNEWY]

I have spoken to the team, FC3 is feature complete and this was not a feature that was included by design. I can make no promises at this stage. 

 

thanks

[lev-kusanagi]

@BIGNEWYthank you!

[Vekkinho]

Can't check with my install for a next few days but IIRC relative speed is there, make sure your Radar's on when you use guns in order to see it.

Edited July 16, 2021 by Vekkinho

[musolo]

@BIGNEWYYou guys desided that something is feauture complete at some point in time. Perhaps you could  reconsider just a couple of those decisions for combat related stuff. Those are weapon employment features after all and are designed irl to win the fight. FC3 and future MAC serve as  a gateway to FF realm.  Combat related functionality misrepresentations that are hurting LF modules effectivness in the fight are the biggest contributurs to negative effect from gameplay experience.  If any given feature is already implemented in  a way that allows to  reuse it on the HUD without having to make it from scratch there is hope you`d give it some love. As HUD is in the players face more than anything else most of the time) Thanks for trying to make it happen. We beleive in you!

 

Edited August 8, 2021 by musolo

[lev-kusanagi]

On 7/16/2021 at 1:31 PM, Vekkinho said:

Can't check with my install for a next few days but IIRC relative speed is there, make sure your Radar's on when you use guns in order to see it.

 

No, closure is not on HUD guns mode, though it should be, in the 15C

On 8/8/2021 at 6:02 AM, musolo said:

@BIGNEWYYou guys desided that something is feauture complete at some point in time. Perhaps you could  reconsider just a couple of those decisions for combat related stuff. Those are weapon employment features after all and are designed irl to win the fight. FC3 and future MAC serve as  a gateway to FF realm.  Combat related functionality misrepresentations that are hurting LF modules effectivness in the fight are the biggest contributurs to negative effect from gameplay experience.  If any given feature is already implemented in  a way that allows to  reuse it on the HUD without having to make it from scratch there is hope you`d give it some love. As HUD is in the players face more than anything else most of the time) Thanks for trying to make it happen. We beleive in you!

 

 

I think those are great arguments, all of them. I hope ED will listen.  @BIGNEWY any updates in this regard? Thank you again. -ЛK

Edited August 13, 2021 by lev-kusanagi