nighthawk2174 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cmptohocah said: One more interesting thing, the two F-15s did not realize that there were 2 MiGs until some 20NM (~37km) distance. Eagle wingman was in STT true, but until this, as far as F-15s were concerned, they were dealing with one target. I know for a fact that the MiG drivers were flying in a fairly tight formation (visual range), so it makes one wonder about the radar resolution also. Not really MiG-29 related, but more of a general DCS comment. The F15 has RAID modes (which we don't have in game for the F15) so it should be able to separate targets at a good distance if it is was used, they may have not used it and if the two migs were flying extremely close to each other 20 NMi for separation isn't unreasonable. 5 minutes ago, Cmptohocah said: My bad, I had the distance wrong. I was more 350km rather than 800km. rog 800km seemed rather far at 350km radar horizon would limit you to seeing targets above 5000ft at 350km assuming that the AWACS was at 30k ft. The farther away the higher the target would have to be and if the AWACS was flying lower or higher would impact this as well. 1
GGTharos Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Cmptohocah said: One more interesting thing, the two F-15s did not realize that there were 2 MiGs until some 20NM (~37km) distance. Eagle wingman was in STT true, but until this, as far as F-15s were concerned, they were dealing with one target. I know for a fact that the MiG drivers were flying in a fairly tight formation (visual range), so it makes one wonder about the radar resolution also. Not really MiG-29 related, but more of a general DCS comment. Combine the 350km with terrain and you'll see the problem (just switch google maps to terrain mode). As for break-out, 'visual' doesn't mean tight since it can easily be 5nm apart. The eagle's RAID and RGH modes are good at breaking contacts apart as far as 40nm according to unclassified information so I wouldn't read anything into this. This could really be miscommunication or they just didn't make use of the breakout modes as needed, or, even more simply didn't run MELD OR the counting of bandits was the result of MELD. I think the AWACS confusion contributed a lot here. Anyway, in those encounters the MiG-29s were always outnumbered and outgunned so there's really not a lot to talk about here. Edited July 17, 2021 by GGTharos 2 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
FlankerKiller Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 On 6/7/2021 at 2:47 PM, HalasKor said: Yes, the new full fidelity Mig will be old. I’m confident ED would do something newer if they could.Though it seems to be very tough for ED to develop anything even vaguely modern from Russia. I imagine the Russian government does not see the value in allowing ED to simulate modern aircraft. I bet some would love to have older versions of the 15, 16, and 18. Absolutely! Let's have some late 80's early 90's action! It's apparently controversial to have this opinion, but I'm down for achieving balance by simulating a period when things were actually balanced. 3
Harlikwin Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 36 minutes ago, FlankerKiller said: Absolutely! Let's have some late 80's early 90's action! It's apparently controversial to have this opinion, but I'm down for achieving balance by simulating a period when things were actually balanced. Hardly a controversial opinion. 2 New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
FlankerKiller Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 34 minutes ago, Harlikwin said: Hardly a controversial opinion. Go read my thread on getting Desert Storm era Hornets, Viper's, and Hogs. The "Modern red air" crowed came out with pitch forks. I still stand by that too. Once there completed I truly believe DCS would benefit from having the 4th gens that actually would have been involved in a "hot war". But it's apparently a very unpopular opinion. 1 1
Harlikwin Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 22 hours ago, FlankerKiller said: Go read my thread on getting Desert Storm era Hornets, Viper's, and Hogs. The "Modern red air" crowed came out with pitch forks. I still stand by that too. Once there completed I truly believe DCS would benefit from having the 4th gens that actually would have been involved in a "hot war". But it's apparently a very unpopular opinion. Well I'm suprised to read that. But at least you have a few guys that agree with you. Frankly I think DCS should target "mid" decades +/- a few years where planes were actually "in service" "in numbers" So for like 1985, you have F16A's, F15A's and some C's, F18A etc. Vs 9.12 mig29, Mig23MLA/MLD, maybe throw in an early Su-27 for balance etc. For 1975, it could be like Mig21bis, early mig23's, vs Mirage F1, F4E and whatever else. 5 New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
kseremak Posted July 25, 2021 Posted July 25, 2021 On 7/19/2021 at 6:55 PM, FlankerKiller said: Go read my thread on getting Desert Storm era Hornets, Viper's, and Hogs. The "Modern red air" crowed came out with pitch forks. I still stand by that too. Once there completed I truly believe DCS would benefit from having the 4th gens that actually would have been involved in a "hot war". But it's apparently a very unpopular opinion. Sounds great, where can i find this thread?
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