DetroiTechno Posted June 14, 2021 Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) I only play warbirds. I have all of them. I mainly play multiplayer IL2 but I bought all the DCS warbirds as well. Whenever I play any mission or instant action in DCS with AI wingmen they are absolutely useless! Meanwhile my AI opponents are hardened killers out to humiliate me. The AI enemy are impressive in DCS. I just don't understand why my wingmen are so stupid. My AI wingmen are all shot down immediately doing ridiculously stupid things. Example: I was behind a K4 in my P47. My A! wingman flew directly in front of the K4 I was chasing out of nowhere and got shot down. Why? It compelled me to write this here to try and find out if there is anything I can do to fix this. It's frustrating. Is there some way to turn up my AI wingmen intelligence level? Every time I play it's me against the entire AI team because my wingmen are *immediately* shot down like idiots. Thanks for any help! Edited June 14, 2021 by DetroiTechno 1 AMD 5950X - AMD 6900XT Red Devil - Reverb G2 Virpil WarBRD base - Virpil Constellation Stick - Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle - Logitech Pro Pedals Get some!
sirrah Posted June 14, 2021 Posted June 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, DetroiTechno said: I only play warbirds. I have all of them. I mainly play multiplayer IL2 but I bought all the DCS warbirds as well. Whenever I play any mission or instant action in DCS with AI wingmen they are absolutely useless! Meanwhile my AI opponents are hardened killers out to humiliate me. The AI enemy are impressive in DCS. I just don't understand why my wingmen are so stupid. My AI wingmen are all shot down immediately doing ridiculously stupid things. Example: I was behind a K4 in my P47. My A! wingman flew directly in front of the K4 I was chasing out of nowhere and got shot down. Why? It compelled me to write this here to try and find out if there is anything I can do to fix this. It's frustrating. Is there some way to turn up my AI wingmen intelligence level? Every time I play it's me against the entire AI team because my wingmen are *immediately* shot down like idiots. Thanks for any help! We hear your frustration and everyone with a little DCS singleplayer experience will agree with you that AI needs to be massively improved (imho, AI in IL2 isn't much better by the way ). Luckily ED has let us know that it's on their to-do list. But as you might understand, that's a long list and improving AI will be time consuming, so don't expect any wonders soon. In the meanwhile you could maybe check if the wingmen in your mission are set to "ace" at least. (if you don't know how to do that, just let us know) 1 System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM - Realsimulator FSSB-R3 ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH
DetroiTechno Posted June 15, 2021 Author Posted June 15, 2021 I really appreciate your reply sirrah, Setting the wingmen to "ace" sounds like a solution! I don't see where to change this. For example I select mission > P47, The Channel, Merchant Convoy Defense. I set the difficulty level to expert in the F10 menu. Regardless of what I set the difficulty to my wingmen are idiots. I went after the K4s. Two of my wingmen were almost immediately shot down. Never once did I see them engage the enemy, they always had a K4 behind them. I turned around and one of my wingmen was on me like glue in formation. Why? Go do something! The entire time I'm giving them the command "flight engage bandits" Why is he still flying in formation with me making turns? I engage one of the K4s... Shortly after that I'm hit. I turn around and I my formation wingman is gone... and there are 3 x K4s right behind me firing at me. Quick and humiliating battle... P47s - 0, K4s - 4. Quote In the meanwhile you could maybe check if the wingmen in your mission are set to "ace" at least. (if you don't know how to do that, just let us know) I would really appreciate it if you could tell me how to change the AI wingmen to "Ace". I don't see anywhere to do this. Thanks for any help!!!! AMD 5950X - AMD 6900XT Red Devil - Reverb G2 Virpil WarBRD base - Virpil Constellation Stick - Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle - Logitech Pro Pedals Get some!
DetroiTechno Posted June 21, 2021 Author Posted June 21, 2021 Ok so here is something.... When I play other planes, the A8 and P51 for example, I say "flight engage bandits" and my wingmen give me a verbal acknowledgement that they are engaging bandits. They break off independently and each engage a logical target. With the P47 no matter how many times I say "engage bandits" or "cover me" they just fly behind me the whole time in formation. Is there something I am doing wrong here or is this a bug? Why aren't these commands having any effect on my wingmen in the P47? Update: I've tried this now on several identical maps with P51 and P47. "Engage bandits" with the P51 my wingman attacks a target and then actually tells me when he rejoins. "Engage bandits" with the P47 does nothing and he just stays at my wing. AMD 5950X - AMD 6900XT Red Devil - Reverb G2 Virpil WarBRD base - Virpil Constellation Stick - Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle - Logitech Pro Pedals Get some!
Sonoda Umi Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 I'm not flying warbirds but only USN jets. I can say that AI wingmen are de-facto useless whether warbirds or not. THB, AI wingmen should be overhauling remade. AI wingmen are supposed to build as RTS-like tactical control to enhance gameplay and make them useful.
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