AIM54 datalink?

[festr]

After the update, should we see AIM54 fenix missiles on datalink? J11 can see them, F14 can see them, even on radars - but FJ17 radar nor datalink can see AIM54 missiles. 

[sylkhan]

It should, since our modern radar (and AWACS) are able to detect this large missile at very long range.

 

 

[riojax]

Not only AIM-54, the F-18 for example can lock AIM-120 at 20 nm and AIM-9 at 8 nm.

[Harlikwin]

On 6/17/2021 at 11:35 AM, sylkhan said:

It should, since our modern radar (and AWACS) are able to detect this large missile at very long range.

 

 

 

Actually those planes largely should not. All radars have upper limits on the speeds of things they can see. There is an upper speed filter as well as a lower filter. Most of these are well known. Let's say in the realm of 2000kts for most moder PD radars. 

 

So its yet another thing ED has messed up. 

Edited June 22, 2021 by Harlikwin

[okopanja]

On 6/22/2021 at 3:26 PM, Harlikwin said:

 

Actually those planes largely should not. All radars have upper limits on the speeds of things they can see. There is an upper speed filter as well as a lower filter. Most of these are well known. Let's say in the realm of 2000kts for most moder PD radars. 

 

So its yet another thing ED has messed up. 

 

Yes, but once they drop in the speed and they do due to the physics they should become visible, since RCS of these missiles is almost as large as tomahawk.

I consider this as annoyance and gift:

- it clutters SA,

- makes you sometimes think its a fighter jet, if you did not follow the DL

- helps you identify F-14s which fired them.

 

On 6/19/2021 at 11:21 AM, riojax said:

Not only AIM-54, the F-18 for example can lock AIM-120 at 20 nm and AIM-9 at 8 nm.

Due to mostly flying J-11A/Su-27 I have to say I did not manage get a single lock no matter how close to them on MP.

As a platform that is capable of locking cruise missiles Su-27 should be able to lock onto them and fire with R-27 once the flight parameters match. This is documented in the flight manual, within R-27 section.

 

Another thing I noticed with the DL is its insane update rate. This is visible once the aircraft gets hit and starts spinning. The respective radar in RL has 6 revolutions per minute.

 

This means that with updates every 10 seconds 1000 km/h target would move 2777m between 2 revolutions. With such a large update rate (as observed in DCS DL), provided that tracking error in terms of position is low enough, one could fire the missile and let it be guided by DL data.

 

 

Edited September 20, 2021 by okopanja