RIO: Data Entry

[Tulkas]

Hi there.

 

taking my firsts steps in the back cockpit. I have some problems with entering data, such as waypoints or navgrid parameters. I appear to get stuck some time like if I enter the first WP I don`t get to introduce data for any other WP. When I select WP2 and push lat, N, and punch the numbers nothing hapend. Other times I am setting up the navgrid, I get to enter YY, maybe the number of sectos but then the coverage and direction do not work, even if the nulbers appear to get after pushing ALT and HDG. If I get out of the plane and come back, apparently Jester fixes it and it works again. I assume that it is user error but I was not able to find anything about it.

 

thanks for the help!

[zildac]

Are you poressing "clear" before starting entry of the next waypoint? Been a while since I sat back there but I do recall a similar issue.

[Karon]

That's an odd issue, OP. As @zildac said, make sure you press Clear every time you want to start a new input of command. Actually, pretend that every new command must be preceded by it. For instance, new WP:

1. [CLEAR] [1] {type Lat} [ENTER]
2. [CLEAR] [6] {type Long} [ENTER]
3. [CLEAR] [4] {type Elevation} [ENTER]

Now, pressing Clear is not always necessary, but initially helps to avoid a ton of issues. Similarly, after working on a WP, do an half-action on the HCU. It will de-select your WP or track, so you don't end up positioning the wrong WP or, even worse, your own AC location accidentally!

 

About the NAVGRID, make sure you are in TID GS mode and the NAVGRID is selected. Press clear and do what you need to do. So:

1. HCU half-action
2. CAP to D/L
3. Select NAVGRID
4. [CLEAR] [2] {type number of sectors} [ENTER]
5. [CLEAR] [8] {type orientation} [ENTER]
6. [CLEAR] [4] {type width} [ENTER]

Again, all these half-actions and [CLEAR] are overkill, but they make sure you are not working on something you don't want

Edited June 19, 2021 by Karon
jeez I hate this editor..

[Tulkas]

Yes, I press CLEAR all the time. Actually it is second nature to me because is like pressing ESC when using Revit to clean previous selection/command, my daily job, point is, I never forget CLEAR.

 

Testing a bit yesterday. After entering YY I run into the same problem, could not enter coverage and direction, but I did a «half hook» on an empty space on the screen and then I could proceed. Like if YY was already hooked.

[QuiGon]

Could you share a track file of this problem? That would make it much easier to pinpoint the issue

[Tulkas]

Picking up with the mechanization of the computer. I found out that to avoid getting stuck on a wapoint unhook every time (half HCU action on a empty portion of the TID) is as healthy as pushing CLEAR all the time:

 

 

That solved my problem regarding introducing coordinates for the YY.

 

I have another issue regarding introducing waypoints after a ramp start, if I just select for example WP1 on the CAP, push CLEAR, LAT, N or S and try to start to punch coordinates, nothing happends. Nothing shows up in the TID. And easy work around is to do a full action HCU and WP1 is created in the TID and then I can change the coordinates. But I believe I should be able to introduce coordinates from scratch? Without an existing WP? 

 

And a question, is ok to introduce coordinates while aligning or should I wait?

 

Thanks!

[QuiGon]

2 hours ago, Tulkas said:

But I believe I should be able to introduce coordinates from scratch? Without an existing WP? 

 

That's correct and I'm not sure why it's not working for you. The steps you described seem all correct:

1) Select WP1 on CAP

2) CLEAR

3) LAT

4) N or S

5) Enter lat coordinate

6) Repeat with LONG

 

Can you upload a track file of an unsucessful attempt of yours, so we can take a look what goes wrong there?

 

 

2 hours ago, Tulkas said:

And a question, is ok to introduce coordinates while aligning or should I wait?

 

That should not be an issue. Having said that I personally made a habit of not doing this and rather wait until alignment is complete, as I'm afraid it would break something, even though it should not

Edited September 23, 2021 by QuiGon

[veenee]

43 minutes ago, QuiGon said:

That should not be an issue. Having said that I personally made a habit of not doing this and rather wait until alignment is complete, as I'm afraid it would break something, even though it should not

yep, me too

[Ce_Zeta]

6 hours ago, QuiGon said:

 

That should not be an issue. Having said that I personally made a habit of not doing this and rather wait until alignment is complete, as I'm afraid it would break something, even though it should not

 

Me too. During alignment I dont move any muscle, I don´t breathe...just in case.

[Diesel_Thunder]

I punch in our mission waypoints during alignment all the time, though it depends on where the aircraft is. Shore alignment I punch in the aircraft position first (lat, long, altitude, mag var) and then our waypoints. On the boat I’ll initiate the datalink CVA alignment and then enter the waypoints. 
 

Biggest thing to remember is paying attention to what CAP page you are on so you don’t mistakenly screw up the alignment process. For the CLEAR button, I use it once when entering a coordinate set (lat and long), or if I make a mistake. 

Edited September 25, 2021 by Diesel_Thunder